[QUOTE=michaelab]The K750i is not 3G but IMO 3G is just gimmicks like video calling and new ways to spend money with your provider (goals and music videos on your phone??? puurrleease :rolleyes: ). Never had any issues with SE phones and they're lovely to use. The K750i is one of the best all round phones out there at the moment. Having had a P800 for the last 3 years it was a joy to switch to a really small phone again. Michael.[/QUOTE]Well the K700i my wife uses is pretty much useless after 11 months due to the joystick and she barely uses it. I agree 3G has limited appeal to many. I dont feel the need to video call anyone, but to completely dismiss fast data speeds on a mobile seems like dissing broadband because 56Kbps is as fast as anyone would really need. Being able to download emails with attachments quickly to an IMAP client is a major major plus for me and I suspect many people. Then to be able to use it as a virtually broadband modem for my notebook is hugely beneficial. Proper speed browsing with a proper browser over HTTP when having a coffee or waiting for a train, eBay, online banking, BBC news, etc. is compelling. Again I can appreciate that for many a phone is just a phone/camera/mp3 player device. But the N70 is not much bigger or heavier than the K750i so for me the size and weight isnt a sacfrice and I prefer small phones - then with all the additional features and functions I think you'd have to be peverse to choose the SE. Have you tried one?