last night i sniped this: [URL]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7152217139&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1[/URL] for 127 quid. pick it up on saturday. ok it's not the height of sophistication but should be good enough for my newbie ways and get me going. if i decide that i want to invest more i can either tart that one up a bit or sell it on and buy something a little more spangly. it also gives me a bit of spare change to buy some necessities that chris pointed out (helmet, shorts, toolkit, etc.) and still keep within budget (below actually). cheers julian.