PBirkett - Bobby has left the 'building'.

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    MO! MOnkey`ead!

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    HAHA!!!!

    No chance of MO'N leaving for a wee club like the toon, so you get a second hand rangers man! Sounds about right :D

    One who seems to have gone back on his comments about "going nowhere" recently!

    Never know, he could do a job for you though ;P
     
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    They should give me the job.
     
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    notaclue

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    Given a choice, I think they'd want Bruce. O'Leary has been mentioned too. But how about going for the "[over] six million dollar man" Sven? He could do with a new job.
     
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    PBirkett VTEC Addict

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    Bruce was apparently the first choice.

    Truth be told though, it was never going to be easy to persuade a big name / well respected manager to come to Newcastle. Its probably one of the hardest jobs in the Premiership, and has certainly been the downfall of anyone who has taken it on in the past.
     
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    7_V I want a Linn - in a DB9

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    Is that because, despite having gates and receipts that are amongst the highest of any football club in the country, they've generally done crap?

    Sorry - slipped into 'football banter mode'
     
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    More due I think to the weight of expectation. Only one team can win and Arsenal and Chelsea are so far ahead of the pack, and Man Ure are almost bankers for 3rd that leaves only 1 champions league spot left, and a fair few clubs could challenge for that. Too many clubs including mine expect success because of their great support
     
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    voodoo OdD

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    Couldn't have put it better myself :D :duck:
     
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    notaclue

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    But surely Newcastle are 'big' enough to do better than Souness? He might not have even survived at Blackburn this season.
     
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    voodoo OdD

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    IMO Blackburn were a little unlucky in their start to the season. They comprehensively outplayed ManU but a blatant handball to set up the equaliser, combined with a 'mysterious' extra minute of injury time, ensured that ManU gained a point. And were it not for a dodgy penalty decision against Southampton they would have had the same number of points as ManU !

    Souness has also won the League Cup with Blackburn in the past few years whereas Newcastle haven't won nowt.

    Will Souness be a success ? Who knows but we can all have a laugh at Newcastle in the meantime. God I hate Alan Shearer.
     
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    Yes but which big manager will take on a poisoned chalice? Be expected to win something but with little chance. Robson did fantastic. Top 5, Champions league quarter finals, but that still wasn't good enough. You'd be a fool to take it. 2 or 3 years when you fail you get sacked. Why not stay where you'll be appreciated. O'Leary or Bruce were never viable candidates, they're too sensible
     
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    PBirkett VTEC Addict

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    I'm not going to argue about how we've won nowt, because its true, and nothing I can say will really add anything to the debate, but I'll leave the thread with some thoughts from the site www.nufc.com

     
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    7_V I want a Linn - in a DB9

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    So much depends on the synergy between manager, chairman and the 'spine' of the players. Perhaps Souness could do it at Newcastle, who knows? At least he's got planty of medals on his sideboard (as a player) so he knows what winning's like.

    A good manager will unite the club, the fans and the players so that the whole is greater than the sum of the parts. If they've got the synergy they don't even need the best players - look at Greece in Euro 2004.

    And if he does want to go shopping, well at least Newcastle can afford to send him out with a well-stocked wallet.

    For the next couple of years they'll have their work cut out keeping up with the big three. Liverpool, Tottenham and Middlesborough are probably the yardsticks for their success or failure. Ain't Sam's Bolton doing well so far this season though? Still, early days ... marathon not sprint ... season of two halves ...

    I'll get me coat.
     
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    All pretty academic if Lee Bowyer stays. Guaranteed relegation if he does.
     
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    I dont see how?
     
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    voodoo OdD

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    Leeds ?
    West Ham ?
    The fact he's quite awful ?
     
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    Yup. It's all a bit 'Tales of the Unexpected' but basically it seems Bowyer joins a club, club experiences problems, club gets relegated. Inevitably, managers change and best players leave. First Woodgate, now Robson... Could it be happening again? Spooky.
     
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    Don't forget Bowyer went to West Ham on loan the season they were relegated too
     
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    PBirkett VTEC Addict

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    One player cannot cause a club to go down. Nothing other than sheer coincidence. I dont rate him though.
     
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    MO! MOnkey`ead!

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    Too late! It's being used for a goalpost
     
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    voodoo OdD

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    Aaarrrrrr, we're only winding you up Paul :D .
    Wouldn't want you having big, purple veins sticking out of your forehead like Mr Souness ;) .

    Bowyer is sh*te though !!!!
     
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