"a ppre-amp, at present a good bargain is a musical fidelity X-PRE-V3, witch i have left for £325.00" thanks but quite like idea of passive pre, can't seem to find one with tape loop though improvement with the bryston and ob1 was vast compared to alpha 9 pwr and mission speakers I was using, even with using alpha 9 intergrated as a pre I am doubting that with another pre I will hear a dramatic improvement, am I right? so unsure how much to spend cheers Richard