Signs of tweakness

Ron.

In answer to your question.

I had a systemdeck IIXE with a glass platter.

Its biggest problem was an uneveness in speed stability.

The greatest upgrade you can give it - is a full service by an industry proffessional, and possibly a new belt if it is worn.

Personally I think money spent on clamps, replacement platter etc would be better spent on records, or if youre dead set on upgrades, a better second hand deck...400-600 quid should get you that.

Chris

 

My sympathies, Penance, on the cellulosic nature of your undergirdings, but then, given that the phenomenon is not universal, it shouldn't be elevated to a law of nature, which everyone has to hear, on pain of being impaled on the spikes of a well-known support system where the glass will ring with your screams.

 

LOL Tones, love your descriptions

But maybe its the Lignens and not Cellulose

 

Tones, if its any help, I did the same test with my LP12 and heard preciesly nothing as well.

However when I had my planer 2, you only had to fart near the deck and it would go through the speakers.

So my conclusion is people that are pointing this out arn't using an LP12.

snigger.

 

Both are present in wood - lignin is actually the second most common organic substance on the planet, after cellulose. However, "cellulosic", which is what I said, is, I think, a fair description as both are derived from the same kinds of sugar units. I think the big difference is that lignin is crosslinked, giving an extremely rigid structure. OK, chemistry class out for the night, I'm going to bed!

 

However I would also say that lp12/Aro/Clearaudio VictoryH sounds significanty better than CDi.

 

indeed Tone
That is why the wood rot's that affect the lignen and not cellulose leave a fairly stiff material after. If the rot destroys the cellulose and leaves lignen you get a spongey mess

 

Yeah, but you have to turn the pre-amp to the phono input. Leaving it switched to CD just won't do

:duck: Blimey, I've done it now


:JPS:

 

Nothing thru mine neither: this test doesn't seem to work with the good old LP12.

 

Darn! Knew there was something I forgot!

Actually, the only time during the test when the stylus made a noise through the speakers was when I was a bit clumsy in raising it at the end of the test - I heard it all right then!

 

Glad to see some of you had a go...

Now I would not expect the LP12 or its ilk to play ball, most suspended decks will need a fair old thump to exite them.

Did you tap the platter on the edge [gently]?

Mything in action ......good one

Its not my idea/methodology .... but I'll try and attribute it.

Decks that might would include rega p2/p3 dual cs505 and any of decks you used to get with rack systems.

BUT just because you can hear it, does not mean its not there.

 

Quote
"Record players are sensitive to external vibrations. At the grosses level this manifests itself as groove jumping in responce to footfalls: more subtly, vibrations produced by the loud speaker return via the air and via the structure of the room to interfer with the reading of the groove.This acoustic feed back generally causes nothing so obvious as howl round, but an insidious clouding and muddying of the sound"
Author Keith Howard as part of Audiophile and hifi Answers Digest of HiFi 1990.

Mything in action .....stuff that up your donkey !

 

Yep, then it will ring like church bells!
Sorry couldn't resist.
titian :gatling:

 

The mything Keith Howard

Well, in the words of the immortal Bard Mandy Rice-Davies, he would, wouldn't he? After all, what would audiophilic journalists write about, if they didn't actually believe (or purport to believe) this hogwash?

I think I should erect a memorial to all those who have gone mything in action, and who have no known groove...

 

I think you'll find that K Howard is still one of the most respected and well regarded journalist, in HIFI, [as far as any journalist's can be]. He's currently working for HIFI News see the following.
The feature.
http://www.linkhouse.co.uk/hifi/content/this.html

Now I know who I'd put money on, in the old TT stakes.

 

This is pretty much the conclusion I have come to (and I think I've found somebody willing to service an ageing, though far from aged, Systemdek).

And the more I learn about it, the more the tweaking route seems akin to a dog chasing its tail. Therefore any spare cash must be spent on records. Hallelujah.