Lawrie no typo £4200, The north star dac in my system is just nice and rounded with detail and a some flow, may be just a synergy thing, I can't say with the 860, I wasn't there. But they are plenty more digital gear out there now that is very good also, and keenly priced too, I however still haven't found anything much that makes me want to go wow, that is some thing else, but thats just me, to be honest Lawrie I've just upgraded myself, to another Wadia, strange how things work out, had a bit of greif with the voltage conversion too, but all sussed now, If I was buy a Wadia CDP I'd buy a Wadia 16i and fit the SE transport (If I did mod them). Anyway when does the Trivista and dac 64 arrive for you appraiseal ?, Also try the AA dac, can be had for about £1700 shipped, that may also tickle your fancy, it's good at what it does too. WM