The end is nigh.

DavidF said:
I just popped into Telford today, primarily to replace a brake light bulb; temptaton got the better of me and I poped into the town centre to check out a couple of cds..........

.............Virgin have gone!!! After all this time!

HMV is still there, though. One girl serving (helpful enough lass). Joss Stone was under easy-listening or something......not soul. Diana Krall was hidden away in a corner in a jazz section 6" wide.

The highlight of my excersion was a trip to b+q; in a moment of brain death (:o ) I couldn't remember if b+q included vat on prices (in mitigation many builders merchants don't). When I asked the casher (17 year old lad....... he said HE didn't know.......would I like to ask the shop manager? I gratefully declined the offer)

Back to the loss of Virgin in telford......is this a sign of hings to come....or go, more to the point?
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scott_01 said:
The end is truly nigh.

Just been into York to get the new Richard Hawley and lo and behold Track Records is closed!!!!

It moved last year and now it's closed altogether, after 28 years.

I suppose everything comes to an end but there are now no independent record shops in York any more (to my knowledge), just second hand vinyl / CDs. Virgin in York is truly crap and HMV isn't much better. They will drive me to Internet shopping from Piccadilly Records in Manchester or such like.

There are two fairly prosperous HiFi Shops in York, Sound Organisation (v friendly) and Vickers (miserable sods). I know that HiFi shops do not a market for records make but it still surprises me.

York is dire enough as it is unless you like quaint coffee shops, all you-can-eat Chinese restaurants, tourists or high street chains. And now this.

Signed;

Disgusted

YORK
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Hi,

I'm afraid it's a sign of the times. These are tough times for record( & cd) shop. I can see more disappearing.

SCIDB
 
scott_01 said:
York is dire enough as it is unless you like quaint coffee shops, all you-can-eat Chinese restaurants, tourists or high street chains. And now this.

Signed;

Disgusted

YORK
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a bit harsh....?

My parents and I spent a very pleasant couple of days up there a year so back........nice castle, very good museum....and we liked York TC...even if did rain most of the time.

(+ the train museum of course)

Agreed a shame about the rcord/cd shop...not good.

Also the hifi shops; I ent into two, though I don't recall their names and i agree with your conclusion. Th eone ws trying to sell a S/H Mission Cyrus 1 for £200 IIRC.
 
Hi,

amazingtrade said:
Sheffield is different though, the big difference with Manchester it is is Greater Manchester which makes up one city pretty much with odd exceptions such as Rochdale and Wigan (which are no where near Manchester) being placed within the county.
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Greater Manchester was formed in 1974. It is a metropolitan county. Other metropolitan counties include West Midlands, South Yorkshire, West Yorkshire, Tyne & Wear and Merseyside. These are areas of high population densities. These counties has at least one city in them. Some, like West Yorkshire, have three cities.

Metropolitan counties are made up of many metropolitan districts.
These have borough status. Some have city status. A borough is made up of a town or city with surrounding towns (& cities) and villages. These boroughs will supply the local government for it's area.

Greater Manchester has a dense population for it's area. It has a population of over 2,500,000. Manchester is a bit different in the fact that you can be in Manchester city centre, then you turn a corner and you will find yourself in Salford!

A number of boroughs border Manchester hence the illusion of a big population.

South Yorkshire, another metropolitan county, has a bigger area but a smaller population (1,500,000). It is only made up of four boroughs where as Greater Manchester is made up of ten. boroughs.

amazingtrade said:
Saying Manchester has a population of 420,000 is like saying London has a population of 10,000.
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But it is true. People in Manchester don't pay the same council tax (or have the same services) as people in Salford, Trafford and Tameside. If they were in the same borough then the population when be a lot higher.


amazingtrade said:
I live 4 miles away from Manchester City Centre, half a mile away from Trafford, 2 miles away from Salford, 4 miles away from Stockport.
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It shows how close the boroughs are.

SCIDB
 
This makes the city centre has huge as it is though, I read a report the other day that in terms of business Manchester city centre is the most important commercial centre in the UK outside of London these days.

It also beat Edinburgh in terms of tourist numbers last year, the first time ever.

The boroughs all make up the city, Manchester city centre is the centre for people living in trafford, tameside etc with other local shopping towns near by.

Even the Manchester border of Salford is still considered Manchester city centre even though it is in fact a completely different city.

I guess what I am saying is that the city you live in is not always dependant on the local authority.
 
Ghostmachine said:
It's a long time since I was in Sheffield - is Rare and Racy still there?
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Hi Ghostmachine,

Rare and racy is still there. Still selling weird and wonderful books, records and cds. i might pop in this weekend.

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DavidF said:
a bit harsh....?

My parents and I spent a very pleasant couple of days up there a year so back........nice castle, very good museum....and we liked York TC...even if did rain most of the time.

(+ the train museum of course)

Agreed a shame about the record/cd shop...not good.

Also the hifi shops; I went into two, though I don't recall their names and i agree with your conclusion.

I suppose that is a bit harsh, familiarity breeds contempt and all that. It is a decent place to visit. I suppose there are a few places like that, Harrogate springs to my ming. There isn't much of a music scene if you are young. To my knowledge there have never been any decent nightclubs (not in the last 5 years anyway), and loads of shite chain bars, Yates Slug and Lettuce etc. Stag nights and hen weekends abound.

Actually I was right, it is dire (in that respect). Ha Ha Ha. On the bright side There are a lot of decent old pubs about still, a couple of nice bars and 'Fibbers' sometimes put some decent gigs on. the Kings arms by the river serves Ayingerbrau (Sam Smiths brewery), 5.9% sweeeet.

I am now inspired to post about vickers in the dealers thread.
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scott_01 said:
DavidF said:
a bit harsh....?

My parents and I spent a very pleasant couple of days up there a year so back........nice castle, very good museum....and we liked York TC...even if did rain most of the time.

(+ the train museum of course)

Agreed a shame about the record/cd shop...not good.

Also the hifi shops; I went into two, though I don't recall their names and i agree with your conclusion.

I suppose that is a bit harsh, familiarity breeds contempt and all that. It is a decent place to visit. I suppose there are a few places like that, Harrogate springs to my ming. There isn't much of a music scene if you are young. To my knowledge there have never been any decent nightclubs (not in the last 5 years anyway), and loads of shite chain bars, Yates Slug and Lettuce etc. Stag nights and hen weekends abound.

Actually I was right, it is dire (in that respect). Ha Ha Ha. On the bright side There are a lot of decent old pubs about still, a couple of nice bars and 'Fibbers' sometimes put some decent gigs on. the Kings arms by the river serves Ayingerbrau (Sam Smiths brewery), 5.9% sweeeet.

I am now inspired to post about vickers in the dealers thread.
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We had a good couple couple of days up there...except I had after wards a I got too wet...

No night clubs....?

Guess I'm showing my age..:eek:

Nice old pubs+nosh. Thats my impression any way and I'm sticking to it!
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DavidF said:
I always use to use "Spillers" when we were in south wales.

A colleague said they were still operating a couple of years ago...don't know about now.
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Walked passed Spillers yesterday. Seemed pretty open to me.

Also, from the bbc link:

Despite competition from major chains and now internet downloads, he said the independent shop had continued to flourish.
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