[QUOTE=michaelab]I realise you were exaggerating and pretty humorous it was too but IME you'd be unlucky to experience even one of the things you mentioned on your list on the average UK train journey. [/QUOTE] Well like Julian I must be pretty "unlucky" too. I've encountered everything on his list! Some of them things seem pretty standard on certain trains infact! The only one I'm not totally in agreement with, would be: "10) serve the most appalling beverages known to man from a rattly cart pushed by hilda ogden." Don't tend to see the cart at all ;O)