Upgrading CD

rob
i think WM means to add bybee's to the digital line, being the digi circuit internally.
a CDp must have a digital line..............

 

penance

what is a bybee? and what is a digital line? can you explain in some detail? the CDI is a one box machine with one circuit board which contains both digital and analogue circuits and power supply. i'm no expert but i have a rough understanding of what is what inside a cd player.

 

mr devil

i agree and the 135/50 combi but they play the music well. the 135s can get the 50s working but not to their full potential, but then that's what upgrading is all about, getting to the point where you'll never ever ever want to upgrade again. the 135s do sound good with 50s for the money.

 

well for £900 notes, sell the cdi and buy a cdx, or penance, you could fit them to the din to din out put stages alsorts of possiblities, or simply get a better one, reclock the player, (it needs it for sure).
Better still just buy more music

 

A bybee is a small inline filter. Best to search online for that than go into it here. then you can decide if you like lobster sperm or not
There will be a way of putting them into the digi line, possibly by use of the link from transport to circuit board.
To my mind, if the CDp only has one boartd it is already a compromised design

 

:duck:

 

Sort of, but not by the sort of accepted definition that we generally think of. Firstly, it doesn't seem to have any components as such for instance.

So do they work? Well I can't imagine how, but I can best answer that by saying I wouldn't be without the ones I've got in my Wadia 15 & Lynwood power conditioner though. I need some for the Kabers and the Teac too, but I'm happy enough for now .

Cheers

 

Indeed Timpy, i was avoiding the inevitable whale fluid arguments tho

 

guys

found the bybee. i can see why you don't want to get into a discussion about it. like, what happens to the cable reactance after the bybee is fitted to amp/speaker termination. it can't just disappear. if i have a 4m length of cable and use 10cms on the amp end, i'm still left with 3.?m of cable with reactance. are all bybees short? don't like to say it but 'snake oil' please! sounds like peter belt and the A5 paper under one foot of the LP12.

awaiting attack. defences up.

 

Try A4 paper all over the LP12!

 

last time i heard one i though it sounded great, no better with no drive belt. a lot less motor noise coming through

 

anyway guys, my weekend starts in 15mins, so happy listening.
oh yeh, it's good that you are all open minded about the gimmicks (read tweakie upgrades) that exist in audio.

please don't respond until i'm gone, that way i can't reply 'till
monday.

 

To the first statement: you can say that again!

To the second statement: you could do a lot better for the price of a pair of NAP 135s.

And regarding your comment about the LP12: you really seem to have little or no idea at all.

 

well i'm at a computer terminal and couldn't resist.

mr devil


glad you understood the first statement
the 135s cost me 2k. what is there at 2K?
so you love the LP12, and that really does it for you?
things have moved on since the 70s.

what's the rest of your system?

rob

 

"things have moved on since the 70s."

Here we go again. Oh no they haven't, oh yes they have, etc etc.

LP12 is on a big pile of Mana, Naim preamp, Active ATC monitors, Naim CD player, Leak Troughline.

Pictures here.

P.S. Comparing new prices for NAP 135s (£4,000), there are plenty of much more powerful alternatives from Bryston, ECS, et al. Naim gear holds its value quite well, so I would guess that the competition would be considerably cheaper s/h. NAP 135s would be just about the last amp I'd consider to drive ATC monitors passively. They need amplifiers with 200-1500 wpc.

 

prehaps rob mana on level 8 for your cdp should give you an upgrade worthy of a naim cdp

 

Quite correct.

 

i'm already mana'd. CDI on 10, 4tier+8 (pre, nakamichi etc) ,
50s on 50 cut downs + 7, yes I converted about 7 years ago.
listened to the ECS and it went wrong. blew up! luckily not on the 50s. Not a bryston fan at all. I've heard Mr Watsons system back in Pinner with the 100s (that's why I got 50s) and yes fantastic but just couldn't get a pair of activs for the right price. i know what 135s can and cannot do, but the system sounds good.
I also know that Mr Watson had his 52 upgraded which he said sounded a lot better than the standard version. just got to find out who and how. look guys, can't go any further with mana, just haven't got the space.

on the LP12 thing, I take it that it has been 'ninja'd'? I personally prefer the big VPI but then i'm allowed to.

and by the way the way, things have moved on since the 70's or you wouldn't have gone down the mana route.

rob

 

Time for even more mana I feel, remember you can't have enough mana, and how about a Hydra? and some powersnakes (non oily) I'm mean if dave gilmore reckons there good enough for the Astoria then hey a low level mana freak would surely 'juice his silkies' at the propect of having them in his system
Me, I sell the lot and by a more balanced and enjoyable system, so far no mana system has caused me to go wow I want one, when Quizzed about pogs and how superior it was to certain others Mr ranson just smiled and said it's about the music
So rob, how about a Hydra they go well with RKR's mains mods, go on treat yourself, you deserve it

 

Yes it's been Ninja'd, and those are JW's old 100 As.

His 52 was modded by James, mine hasn't been modded by James.

Good for you on the Mana, btw.