[QUOTE=johnhunt]good idea - sniffer dogs on the underground. need a hell of a lot of them make a real difference so probably not. Lee i read your other points and you seem to be saying that your worry with our judicial system is that there is some err justice and that we treat our prisoners like something approaching human beings. I like your idea about mass murderers doing community service though.[/QUOTE] Yes they would need a lot of dogs, but then its not like dogs are in short supply, its just the presence of such methods that might make the difference, they not knowing if they'll encounter a sniffer dog or not, a deterrent if you will. Yes but why treat these people like humans, they don't behave like humans. Yes I agree our justice system has to be correct and find the right people guilty, but once done, beyond a shadow of a doubt, then there should be no going back, no deals with their contry for release, in for life. Yes but its the right community service though, not doing the garden for the OAP's for 1/2 a day, I mean real hard graft, long working hours, etc.