tones
compulsive cantater
But only when used in conjunction with a Xerox machine.
CD Stoplight (green pen)
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penance
Arrogant Cock
printer/copier cleaning fluid i believe.Originally posted by technobear
Xerox fluid???
Oh well. At least it'll stop us having any more green pen arguments!
the xerox fluid is an antistatic fluid that works in the same way as RA Relees.
the xerox fluid is an antistatic fluid that works in the same way as RA Relees.
bottleneck
talks a load of rubbish
anyone too heartbroken can have mine for p&p only.
I just use it as a marker pen to write on cardboard boxes.
I just use it as a marker pen to write on cardboard boxes.
michaelab
desafinado
Ditto - I've stopped using mine. The pen should have at least 70-80 CDs worth of ink left in it.
Michael.
michaelab
desafinado
You have PM 
Michael.
Michael.
Ah yes,more nonesense and bogus theories that deals with green
pens, laser light absorption, and scatter reduction. This appears to repeat itself every couple of months
There is not a SINGLE CD player that uses a red laser diode Mr Penance. If the did they would be violating the Red (no pun intended) Book specifications, not to mention that theywould not work. What you are seeing is red shifting of the infrared beam (wavelength 780-800nm)by looking off-axis through the antireflection coating on the lens.
These coatings are designed for normal incidence and tend to show funny colors when viewed off-axis.
It has NEVER been shown that green ink absorbs light at 790 nm (the typical wavelength of semiconductor lasers used in CD players).
It has NEVER been shown that there is even any light that makes it to the edge of the disc in the first place. In fact the only physical mechanism by which that would be possible is through total internal reflection that would require a pretty precise incident angle.
It has NEVER been shown that any light that somehow makes it to the edge of the disc (and is not "absorbed" by the magic green ink) will find its way back to the detector to have any effect whatsoever. If stray lightaffected the laser pick-up system then CD players would sound better in the dark. This is actually an easy experiment to do: Get a really bright light and shine it on your spinning disc.
Do you hear a difference? I don't think so.
Any claims to the contrary are just that: claims that are unsupported by any scientific evidence or even simple experimentation. But that never appears to bother any of the snake oil brigade.
Here is a lovely post on another forum re cables which can be changed quite easily for this topic
Cable Neurosis
A compensatory displacement mechanism related to a loss of tone controls. May also be symptomatic of a free-floating anxiety that "everything should be better than it is".
Many sufferers may also have experienced the loss of a turntable, which enabled comforting tweaking behaviours.
Persons suffering from this condition are almost exclusively male. General age of onset: late adolescence / early adult.
Medical treatment is not indicated. ECT, in particular, is contraindicated because the sufferer may develop an obsessive interest in the apparatus.
Cable Neurosis is essentially a developmental disorder. Signs and symptoms generally abate by mid/late middle age
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pens, laser light absorption, and scatter reduction. This appears to repeat itself every couple of months
There is not a SINGLE CD player that uses a red laser diode Mr Penance. If the did they would be violating the Red (no pun intended) Book specifications, not to mention that theywould not work. What you are seeing is red shifting of the infrared beam (wavelength 780-800nm)by looking off-axis through the antireflection coating on the lens.
These coatings are designed for normal incidence and tend to show funny colors when viewed off-axis.
It has NEVER been shown that green ink absorbs light at 790 nm (the typical wavelength of semiconductor lasers used in CD players).
It has NEVER been shown that there is even any light that makes it to the edge of the disc in the first place. In fact the only physical mechanism by which that would be possible is through total internal reflection that would require a pretty precise incident angle.
It has NEVER been shown that any light that somehow makes it to the edge of the disc (and is not "absorbed" by the magic green ink) will find its way back to the detector to have any effect whatsoever. If stray lightaffected the laser pick-up system then CD players would sound better in the dark. This is actually an easy experiment to do: Get a really bright light and shine it on your spinning disc.
Do you hear a difference? I don't think so.
Any claims to the contrary are just that: claims that are unsupported by any scientific evidence or even simple experimentation. But that never appears to bother any of the snake oil brigade.
Here is a lovely post on another forum re cables which can be changed quite easily for this topic
Cable Neurosis
A compensatory displacement mechanism related to a loss of tone controls. May also be symptomatic of a free-floating anxiety that "everything should be better than it is".
Many sufferers may also have experienced the loss of a turntable, which enabled comforting tweaking behaviours.
Persons suffering from this condition are almost exclusively male. General age of onset: late adolescence / early adult.
Medical treatment is not indicated. ECT, in particular, is contraindicated because the sufferer may develop an obsessive interest in the apparatus.
Cable Neurosis is essentially a developmental disorder. Signs and symptoms generally abate by mid/late middle age
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penance
Arrogant Cock
good god your boring
If you dont believe in it, dont buy it.
if your to narrow minded to accept some things work without being explainable, stop going on about it
get a life or get lost Mr Stebo
If you dont believe in it, dont buy it.
if your to narrow minded to accept some things work without being explainable, stop going on about it
get a life or get lost Mr Stebo
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penance
Arrogant Cock
I wont continue to discuss it with you as you realy are not worth the bother, way to boring and anal.
Suffice to say, your response is obviously designed to get a raise from the open minded, incase you havent noticed we seem to have a rather nice co-existance of believers/non-believers now. If you cant conform to that principle maybe you could stay away or refrain from posting inane baiting troll remarks.
Suffice to say, your response is obviously designed to get a raise from the open minded, incase you havent noticed we seem to have a rather nice co-existance of believers/non-believers now. If you cant conform to that principle maybe you could stay away or refrain from posting inane baiting troll remarks.
The Devil
IHTFP
It's all bollocks, I'm afraid.
penance
Arrogant Cock
James,
Ive not heard your system so i couldnt possibly comment
Ive not heard your system so i couldnt possibly comment
The Devil
IHTFP
Don't worry - you don't need to. The internet gurus hath spake.
julian2002
Muper Soderator
liam,
it's worth a try. i've heard green pens work wonders for some cd's in some systems and do nothing for other cd's in the same system (or different systems to confuse the issue even more) if ever there was something you should try in your own system this is it. for the price of p'n'p it's not really going to break the bank is it?
cheers
julian
it's worth a try. i've heard green pens work wonders for some cd's in some systems and do nothing for other cd's in the same system (or different systems to confuse the issue even more) if ever there was something you should try in your own system this is it. for the price of p'n'p it's not really going to break the bank is it?
cheers
julian
The Devil
IHTFP
Hi julian,
Some people are very suggestible, and as such make good substrate for seances, hypnotists, green pens and the like.
Some people are very suggestible, and as such make good substrate for seances, hypnotists, green pens and the like.
julian2002
Muper Soderator
anything you say....
cheers
julian
cheers
julian
I thought the fact that the pen is going out of production would stop people arguing about it. Oh well, wishful thinking.
penance
Arrogant Cock
Im not arguing, not tried one, but i do keep an open mind
