deq 2496 query...

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    zanash

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    I did two rooms yesterday ...both jumped into life with a bit of gentle deqing
     
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    ...and are you EQing above 300Hz?
     
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    Yes one was mine. Been playing with my new toy and you can certainly can get some interesting results. Glad i found the gain control to stop clipping.
    Wish i could have it on my Knee though as its hard to hear the changes away from where your sitting. Jim.
     
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    mr cat Member of the month

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    erm, I'll have to check this tonight - tho, I did cover the full range...but i thought this only went to 20khz?

    cheers
     
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    Mine was the other and it did help a lot. The fact that it can work as a acoustic band aid proves that there are room issues and gives an idea of what the system can sound like when the issues are addressed. By using the deq as a tool and with some experimentation, it may be possible to improve the room sufficiently so that the deq can be switched off - at least that is what I am hoping.
     
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    300Hz, not 300KHz!

    You only really want to let it EQ from as low as your speakers go (say 30Hz?) up to about 300Hz. Above 300Hz it will just make a mess of things and take away the character of your system.
     
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    mr cat Member of the month

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    ah - cheers for that - but to confirm - is this for the auto-eq..?

    or for the deq(?) afterwards..? :rolleyes:
    just when I did the auto-eq I covered the full range...
    my speakers go down to about 40hz - but I've also got my sub connected via speaker level too...
     
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    Once you get some furniture in that will help .....but I agree its a tool and if you can get it out the system that will be the best.
     
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    AutoEQ is DEQ. Its all EQ. Even TACT 'room correction' is EQ. Its all just different names.

    When you do any EQ on your system don't use it above 300Hz.
     
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    mr cat Member of the month

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    ok - cheers - will give that a go possibly tonight - been on call for the last week and my body's crying out for some booze... :D
     
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    Well, no, can't go along with that. I get where you are coming from with this but it really depends on the system in question and what you are trying to achieve. That said, you may wish to finesse the auto EQ result a bit to taste.

    Mr Cat, is there a specific issue that you are trying to use the DEQ to address, or are you simply trying to discover what's possible at this stage?

    Regards,

    Stuart.
     
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    It is definitely the best place to start, even more so if using AutoEQ. Besides, if you have issues above 300Hz you should really be addressing them in other ways for the best results.
     
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    mr cat Member of the month

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    hi,
    at the moment I'm just seeing what I can achieve with this...heard a lot about it (some good, some bad) - so I thought I would give it a whirl...but I think it'll take some getting used to... :D
     
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    unless like the room at chris's the treble had tailed off by 15khz and was none existant at 20khz.....but in general I do agree
     
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    Are you sure that was not the microphone, angle and/or comb-filtering? Did it sound alright despite what the DEQ saying there was no treble?
     
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    Mr Cat - If you want to find out what you can do, this article by Thorsten is a good place to start http://www.prijsindex.net/tmp/room acoustics and eq.html. Should give you some ideas to be going on with.

    Once you've got the hang of driving it, try a few differnent things out and see how your system responds. Keep in mind that pretty much whenever you change it, your imediate reaction will likely be that it sounds wrong. It is just different and you need to listen for a little while to get used to what its doing. Quick judgements will mess you about with this thing.

    Stuart.
     
    Stuart, Oct 24, 2006
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