Fake degrees - This *legal* company makes me feel sick

Because the indusrties ask for it.
Speak to anyone in those induestries and they will enlighten you i am sure.
We had a student from his year out for a few months, he didnt even know what 'C' was about.
AT, sorry but a degree these days is worth about as much as the paper its printed on, maybe a tad more.
 
Well I am proud of mine no matter what anybody says, I won't be able to get the job I want to without one, and I have learn't more in the last three years than I have in the last ten priror to going to university.

By C I assume you're meaning the programming language.

If he/she was a computing or electronics student then yes this would be extremely worrying, but it dosn't mean he/she is typical.

Maybe I should have left school at 14 and got a job as a bin man since GCSEs/A levels/Degrees are worthless.
 
There are many reasons for that, that is totaly beyond the point becuase I don't want to be a tube driver.

I never said you need a degree to get a well paid job, I said you need a degree to the job I want to do.
 
amazingtrade said:
Well I am proud of mine no matter what anybody says,
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Well i am happy for you:)

By C I assume you're meaning the programming language.
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Do you know of many other subjects at uni named 'C'?

If he/she was a computing or electronics student then yes this would be extremely worrying, but it dosn't mean he/she is typical.
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75% of experience would disagree (ours anyway). In 4 years we have seen one student that was capable.


Maybe I should have left school at 14 and got a job as a bin man since GCSEs/A levels/Degrees are worthless.
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You cant, school leavers have to complete exams at 15/16
Are you slagging off binmen?
 
Amazing, be proud of your degree!
I (we?) are not having a go at you or what you've done (I cannot recall exactly - for all I know you got a 1st at Cambridge...which might still just be worth something? :JPS: ), just the steady decline in standards.
The press kick up about it every August, but I think it goes much deeper..more students means less unemployment, make them pay for it themselves means more £ in the education system, less of a tax burden & lots of £ for the banks. A few more years down the road & we (the voters) might realise the long term effect that it's having..
 
penance said:
Well i am happy for you:)


Do you know of many other subjects at uni named 'C'?


80% of experience would disagree (ours anyway). In 4 years we have seen one student that was capable.



You cant, school leavers have to complete exams at 15/16
Are you slagging off binmen?
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You know what I am getting at though, my point was if the the qualifications are so worthless why is it mainly people with lesser qualifications who do that kind of job?

Most people I know who are in well paid jobs are graduates and many of them recent ones.
 
robs said:
Amazing, be proud of your degree!
I (we?) are not having a go at you or what you've done (I cannot recall exactly - for all I know you got a 1st at Cambridge...which might still just be worth something? :JPS: ), just the steady decline in standards.
The press kick up abut it every August, but I think it goes much deeper..more students means less unemployment, make them pay for it themselves means more £ in the education system, less of a tax burden & lots of £ for the banks. A few more years down the road & we (the voters) might realise the long term effect that it's having..
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Again I am not denying things are getting easier, but not to the extent that the media like to make out.

Penance have your company considering trying graduates from different universities? Maybe its a limited amount of universities you're having problems with?
 
penance said:
AT
Some people are happy to do manual labour, it can be very rewarding to right people. It is wrong to judge by job.
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Ok sorry I said this the wrong way round, if they A levels et al were so useless why don't people leave school at 16 and get jobs working as an consultant at KMPG?
 
at,
there is a difference between getting a job and being good at it. when i worked in an office i knew numerous grads who i were terrible at their jobs. the best uni-bod was one who had a mediochre grade as he'd spent all his time coding demos and games (i work in computer games so it was relevant). this bears out my view on things re, experience.
be proud of your degree but really it's just a way of getting your foot in the door. remember the piece of paper means you know how to learn, not that you've learnt everything.
cheers


julian
 
julian2002 said:
at,
there is a difference between getting a job and being good at it. when i worked in an office i knew numerous grads who i were terrible at their jobs. the best uni-bod was one who had a mediochre grade as he'd spent all his time coding demos and games (i work in computer games so it was relevant). this bears out my view on things re, experience.
be proud of your degree but really it's just a way of getting your foot in the door. remember the piece of paper means you know how to learn, not that you've learnt everything.
cheers


julian
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But in my case I know I have learn't somthing, I could not do serverside websites before I started and the site I am creating for my final year project is almost as advanced as it gets.

As for my experience this depends on the subject, mine is quite applied, an assignment will involve having to write programs or somthing similier.

Other subjects I suppose especialy those less applied ones it your argument probably makes more sence, for example does having a media studies degree make you a better manager? (Media studies is just used as an example, I am not slagging it off).

I also agree that experience is more important, but these days its much harder to get your foot in the door without a degree. My parents generation could get good jobs easily with just A levels but that has all changed, that dosn't mean that you will be sacked becuase you don't have a degree though :)

I do totaly see your point of course it dosn't mean a Geography graduate is automaticaly a good manager.
 
I (we?) are not having a go at you or what you've done (I cannot recall exactly - for all I know you got a 1st at Cambridge...which might still just be worth something? ), just the steady decline in standards.
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But then again..

<if they A levels>
<working as an consultant>
<is totaly beyond>
<point becuase I>
<I have learn't more>
<last ten priror to>
<but it dosn't mean>
<dosn't mean their getting easier>
<learn't somthing>
<somthing similier>
<especialy>
<sence>
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Are you making a point?? :confused:
If not I sincerelty apologize but I wrest my kase!! :D :D
 
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robs said:
But then again..

<if they A levels>
<working as an consultant>
<is totaly beyond>
<point becuase I>
<I have learn't more>
<last ten priror to>
<but it dosn't mean>
<dosn't mean their getting easier>

Are you making a point?? :confused:
If not I sincerelty apologize but I wrest my kase!! :D :D
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Your point is what exactly? Surely you have miss spelt things in quick arguments. If this was a report then I would make sure things are spelt better and correct grammar is used, but I simply do not have the time to proov read everything I write on an internet forum.

It was very difficult in my early years at school not being able to hear much the the teacher said - this is getting way beyond the point of my original thread now.
 
lordsummit said:
Ed, how come you know so much about Baldey! Are you perchance another Rochdalian?
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Brought up in sunny Deeplish, product of Balderstone Community School, as it was known then. Mrs Ed works as a Central Pupil Database bod in the Black Box, too. She also did a stint at Edit based in Heywood Community School (aka Darn Hill) where also work Dave Cattlin and Paul Marsh (Lerxxst) from PFM - small world or what?

Ed.
 
AT
I could not read or write until the age of 10, I had suffered with very bad eyesight prior to that age.
Spelling is not a case of having time to check, it is a case of having received adequate education to enable correct spelling as a matter of coure (though i admit mine is naff).
 
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