Heathrow show.....

WM you should come and listen to my system straight away - your ideal has been achieved!
 
The Devil said:
Tony, could all your waffle above be summarised as "accuracy"?

If so, you are not the only one looking for that.
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I thought the same thing actually.

It sounds like, from what you are saying, you don't want any compromise and that 'coherence' is the result of that. I simply call it sounding good. Otherwise I think a system can be good at some parts but not others and that means it doesn't 'sound good' but just does some things well i.e. not coherent.
 
Dev said:
Guys, what is this? Pick-on-Tony day? :eek:
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Dev,
why not? If someone picks on other products, why shouldn't one pick on his? :o
But that wasn't my concern and actually it was not an invitation for picking on somebody.
I'm just saw that Alex writing that he found all system lacking of "musical coherence" and someone else replies to agree and that it is the most important thing for him otherwise the reproducing system is "only" hifi-system.
What I couldn't understand is that Alex didn't describe at that moment what he means as "musical coherence" so I wonder how someone can agree with that and at the same time pick on systems which aren't able to produce that. :confused:

wadia-miester said:
The ability for a system to portray the music in a totally together fashion, focused and coherent, not disassembled or out of time, or spread across the stage were they aren't meant to be.
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I would like to know coherent to what?
 
You would imagine or are you sure? If you use the word coherence there should be a reference point.
If you're not sure to what you are referencing to then everything has no sense.
 
Don't drag me into it, I'm just trying to help. That is my guess based on Wadia Miesters posts I have read whilst using this board.
 
I think that like a lot of things you have to experience it to have some idea of what Tony's on about. Fortunately I've had the privilege of hearing both his system and the effect of some of his products in my system, and as a result when he talks about coherence I have more of an idea what he means.

Don't ask me to describe it on here though. If I could I'd probably be able to make a living as a hifi reviewer....... :D

Cheers,

Jon
 
You are arguing over symatics,
In very basic terms, the gluing of the sound together, neither lagging bass (one noting or 1 beat behind a very common issue with ultra high end hifi), nore mega prominant mid band at the expence of all other frequenices, or upper frequenices spread into infinity or beyond.
But totally intact (not disasmmebled or disjointed), top to bottom eveness of the sound no one set of frequenices showing prefernce over another.
No artifical staging tricks, or overly smooth treble, even sat in the front 10 rows of a full Blues band when the kick horns let fly?
Yet neither show it resemeble an old skool naim 'No.2 Bastard File brain driller. either
It should emcompasses realistic dynamics, attack and NOTE DECAY, and tight coherent, deep and accurate bass.
 
wadia-miester said:
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It should emcompasses realistic dynamics, attack and NOTE DECAY, and tight coherent, deep and accurate bass.
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Sounds like a very good description of my DAC1 + ATC active 50s...

Andrew
 
wadia-miester said:
You are arguing over symatics,
In very basic terms, the gluing of the sound together, neither lagging bass (one noting or 1 beat behind a very common issue with ultra high end hifi), nore mega prominant mid band at the expence of all other frequenices, or upper frequenices spread into infinity or beyond.
But totally intact (not disasmmebled or disjointed), top to bottom eveness of the sound no one set of frequenices showing prefernce over another.
No artifical staging tricks, or overly smooth treble, even sat in the front 10 rows of a full Blues band when the kick horns let fly?
Yet neither show it resemeble an old skool naim 'No.2 Bastard File brain driller. either
It should emcompasses realistic dynamics, attack and NOTE DECAY, and tight coherent, deep and accurate bass.
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..or in other words what you feel is right...
 
I'm afraid from your descriptions Tone that you want some good studio monitors in a conditioned room! Low distortion, phase coherent and a flat response with tight bass. Sorted ;) Something tells me you won't like that idea...
 
Tenson,

I had a feeling you were going to say that!!!
The answers still no. Not quite.
Studio monitors at home, been there NO thanks!!!
Some are very good at producing an a sound the mastering engineer can work with to his job for sure.
 


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