Heathrow show.....

WM you should come and listen to my system straight away - your ideal has been achieved!

 

Yeah Craig and don't you forget

 

Tony, could all your waffle above be summarised as "accuracy"?

If so, you are not the only one looking for that.

 

I thought the same thing actually.

It sounds like, from what you are saying, you don't want any compromise and that 'coherence' is the result of that. I simply call it sounding good. Otherwise I think a system can be good at some parts but not others and that means it doesn't 'sound good' but just does some things well i.e. not coherent.

 

Dev,
why not? If someone picks on other products, why shouldn't one pick on his?
But that wasn't my concern and actually it was not an invitation for picking on somebody.
I'm just saw that Alex writing that he found all system lacking of "musical coherence" and someone else replies to agree and that it is the most important thing for him otherwise the reproducing system is "only" hifi-system.
What I couldn't understand is that Alex didn't describe at that moment what he means as "musical coherence" so I wonder how someone can agree with that and at the same time pick on systems which aren't able to produce that.

I would like to know coherent to what?

 

The original performance/recording I would imagine.

 

You would imagine or are you sure? If you use the word coherence there should be a reference point.
If you're not sure to what you are referencing to then everything has no sense.

 

Don't drag me into it, I'm just trying to help. That is my guess based on Wadia Miesters posts I have read whilst using this board.

 

Sorry, I thought you were Alex. :shame:

 

lol

 

Not possible with pmc's and Brystons sir

 

Accuracy of What James?, the timbre of the intruments or the protrial of the music?

 

I think that like a lot of things you have to experience it to have some idea of what Tony's on about. Fortunately I've had the privilege of hearing both his system and the effect of some of his products in my system, and as a result when he talks about coherence I have more of an idea what he means.

Don't ask me to describe it on here though. If I could I'd probably be able to make a living as a hifi reviewer.......

Cheers,

Jon

 

You are arguing over symatics,
In very basic terms, the gluing of the sound together, neither lagging bass (one noting or 1 beat behind a very common issue with ultra high end hifi), nore mega prominant mid band at the expence of all other frequenices, or upper frequenices spread into infinity or beyond.
But totally intact (not disasmmebled or disjointed), top to bottom eveness of the sound no one set of frequenices showing prefernce over another.
No artifical staging tricks, or overly smooth treble, even sat in the front 10 rows of a full Blues band when the kick horns let fly?
Yet neither show it resemeble an old skool naim 'No.2 Bastard File brain driller. either
It should emcompasses realistic dynamics, attack and NOTE DECAY, and tight coherent, deep and accurate bass.

 

Sounds like a very good description of my DAC1 + ATC active 50s...

Andrew

 

..or in other words what you feel is right...

 

Oi! I am NOT arguing with anyone! Prove I was arguing, go on Tone prove it!

 

I'm afraid from your descriptions Tone that you want some good studio monitors in a conditioned room! Low distortion, phase coherent and a flat response with tight bass. Sorted Something tells me you won't like that idea...

 

Tenson,

I had a feeling you were going to say that!!!
The answers still no. Not quite.
Studio monitors at home, been there NO thanks!!!
Some are very good at producing an a sound the mastering engineer can work with to his job for sure.

 

Come off it Tony. You are "knitting with fog" again!

Good effort. Bullshit baffles brains.