michaelab
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OK, that's a fair point.
Michael.
Michael.
krell amps what price?
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Well, as an Ex Rotel RMB1095 owner, and now a Krell KAV250a/3 owner, I can safely say the Krell is miles better than the Rotel
Anyone who cant hear the difference between a cheap Rotel amp and a decent 2 grand amp must fall into either of the camps listed below
1. They are deaf (most probable)
2. They dont have the money for a decent Amp
3. The speakers they have are so coloured that you cannot hear kit changes
4. They are just argumentative sods who are deaf, skint, and own crap speakers.
I dont agree with an expensive amp and cheap speakers or vice versa.
Needs to be more balanced than that.
Curt
1. They are deaf (most probable)
2. They dont have the money for a decent Amp
3. The speakers they have are so coloured that you cannot hear kit changes
4. They are just argumentative sods who are deaf, skint, and own crap speakers.
I dont agree with an expensive amp and cheap speakers or vice versa.
Needs to be more balanced than that.
Curt
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BerylliumDust
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BerylliumDust said:
alexs2 said:
That statement is not totally accurate. With a more powerful amplifier you have a beefier power supply to allow greater signal swing at the output as a result of greater signal drive achieved by a reduction in the attenuation factor from your volume control. You don't necessarily need more gain.
However, the pratical result is the same... you'll eventually need more amplifying devices in order to achieve the higher output and power dissipation requirements.
As for SETs you have a reduction in power at the expense of drive capability. By virtue of the ridiculous low damping factor and less than perfect output transformers coupled with higher sensitivity speakers, the attack and decay of notes can never be accurately realized and you'll get sweet, floppy and gutless sound.
Let's face it Alex, BD really doesnt know what he is talking about as usual.
Curt said:
Really? Must they?
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.audio.opinion/msg/7926d15e8521aa08
What's the diagnosis on these three? Deaf, do you think?
Ah,the fabled Sanghoon Lee.
He and his friends have an ear wax problem don't you know ? *
I'll post a link to it as soon as i've typed it and hosted it on a spoof audiophile site
I've recently read on 'another' site an interesting poll ;
There are 3 types of hifi enthuiast :
(1) Those that own Krell
(2) Those that want krell
(3) Those that own Krell but want more
Which are you? *
*In the interests of scientific fact - I 'may' have made all this up :JPS:
He and his friends have an ear wax problem don't you know ? *
I'll post a link to it as soon as i've typed it and hosted it on a spoof audiophile site
I've recently read on 'another' site an interesting poll ;
There are 3 types of hifi enthuiast :
(1) Those that own Krell
(2) Those that want krell
(3) Those that own Krell but want more
Which are you? *
*In the interests of scientific fact - I 'may' have made all this up :JPS:
BerylliumDust
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alexs2 said:
I heard Manley Neo Classic's SE (300B valves) with the Klipschorns... sweet, floppy and gutless.
No matter what valves you use, you'll still need output transformers to match the loudspeaker impedance. But, louspeaker's impedance is very far from constant... that's it. With output transformers you are optimizing for max power transfer considering constant and resistive speaker's load impedance. This is a grossly approximation...
As we've seen power amps should not put out constant power but pretty much act like true voltage sources... it is the applied voltage that determines the desired physical motion of the speaker, thus you need to provide varying amounts of current (varying power) in order to not let the applied voltage change as speaker's impedance changes. Only that way the speaker will accurately reproduce what the amplifier is trying to tell it to do.
The damping factor tell us the amplifier's ability to provide current without changing the applied voltage, as well as amplifier's ability to stop speaker's motion (with no applied voltage).
We always need very high damping factor... or in other words, the lowest amplifier's output impedance as possible (this still has another big advantage...). Valves won't do it.
BerylliumDust
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Robbo said:
Yeah Robbo... maybe I should sell my Moon Eclipse... but I really like it... chances are that you don't know what you are hearing about...
I don't know now as I didn't know then...
https://www.audio-forums.com/as-rediect/showthread.php?t=2488
BerylliumDust said:
No you haven't and no it's not.
You are nothing more than an argumentative liar. You clearly haven't heard much if you think the RA1062 is the bees knees.
Statements like you made are what gives internet forums a bad name. You are nothing more than a low quality troll - come back when you have learnt to do it properly.
As I said in my question to BD back there...has he ever heard a 211/845 or 6C33b based SET.....so he replies with a 300B....a very different sound,but certainly not sweet floopy and gutless(and thats from a long term Krell owner).
I have to agree with Merlin....a low quality troll.
I have to agree with Merlin....a low quality troll.
BerylliumDust
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merlin said:
No comments...
merlin said:
My amp is the Rotel RA01... RA1062's same topology but different implementation... less output transistors, only one complementary pair per channel. Better null test performance, thus more accurate and better sound...
TD's amp is the bees knees... virtually perfect null.
merlin said:
Yes... very, very low quality, lowest possible, what makes of you a top quality troll... Already learnt that it is really my fault because you seem to be a top teacher. Sorry...
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