[QUOTE=TonyL] Where this leaves Apple is quite interesting. They have inevitably lost much of their hardware edge, all they can really offer here is better aesthetic design and badge status. Tony.[/QUOTE] I think if you buy at the right time, i.e. the beginning of the product life cycle, they offer VFM you can't get anywhere else. Towards the end I think they push their luck not dropping the prices down but I guess thats just the way they are. I did look long and hard but couldn't find anyone offering even close to the apple spec for the same money. Well apart from the shoddy mbp screen anyway. :/