More awful pictures of Mana

Hi dom,

There's only one sheet of glass in a Mana stack - at the top, immediately underneath the speaker/ turntable (except for the racks which have glass as shelves) - and as Paul D says, it's pretty thick & strong. The Troika cost me about £100. It's very nice, but then again it is on phase nine....

 

Aye, next time in Weegie I may just do that.

And you're welcome to come and have a listen to the new 20s. I think I've just about gotten to the point where I'm satisfied with positioning and run-in, and can really start to enjoy the music. (Then again, I do sometimes find it hard to stop mucking about with them... )

Dunc

 

tip toe into real meaning of heavy metal ...

I have my transport, dac and amp on a 4 tier Mana stand bought s/h, pre-assembled (correctly I now believe) for £300. One of its virtues is that its quite compact and passed the WAF test surprizingly well. I've been once or twice around the tweak/ping test on the glass, but otherwise just use it as a stack, and a place on which to store the chess board/set until I add a tuner or deck to the hifi set.

Question. Without wanting to provoke slanging from either camp, is my half-hearted Mana the worst or best of both worlds? Should I

a) invest in more heavy metal, and in what order?
b) sell on Mana, and replace with what?
c) worry about other things?
d) sit back and enjoy the music?


(edit: I have decided to replace the Dittons, and have JMlab Electra 905s still on home trial, which I may settle for.)

 

Ditton,

d seems appealing, if you wish to take it further a Soundstage under the rack makes a surprisingly large difference.

 

Spose I would say.... speak to the Mana people... for Mana followers there seems to be ''magical'' levels of Mana ..like 3, 7 or whatever where things really work.

Perhaps then you could work out cost/benefit of going to the next best Mana level?... be it 3, 7, 145 or whatever.

 

3 is my lucky number .........................

 

Sorry Mr Devil, I'm sure it sounds great, but thats the most rediculous and impracticle thing I have ever seen (new to this mana concept!). Don't even want ot know what the total cost is :yikes:
I think for that kind of money I would look at any other solution possible. The missus would string me up if that got anywhere near our house

 

But the Devil is serious Mr. Sauerkraut,

I've known guys who kept motorbikes in the front room, and one who turned the whole of his downstairs into a replica of the East Lancahire Railway line.

I see it all as part of the great old English tradition of eccentric buffery , after all isn't it boring to be normal?

 

There's no need to be sorry, Mr Sauerkraut, I don't mind in the least. If you had an affair with me and we decided to set up home together, then of course your views would be taken into account: I am a gentleman if nothing else.

OTOH my girlfriend did her dissertation on industrial architecture, and she loves it, so we are both happy.

Impractical? Well, it just sits there, really. It doesn't do anything else, at least not visibly.

 

The 'magic' Mana numbers are 1, 2, 4, 7, 9, and I don't really know beyond 9.

I've been wondering about prime numbers ever since I read 'Fermat's Last Theorem', and I would guess 11, 13, 17 and 19 (and so on) would be good.

I've also been thinking about getting an orange box to stand on so I can go higher!

But I'm having my ceiling replastered, and then the room redecorated in the near future, so that will have to wait.

 

I've been wondering about prime numbers ever since I read 'Fermat's Last Theorem', and I would guess 11, 13, 17 and 19 (and so on) would be good.

Why when 1, 4 and 9 aren't primes?

Bob

 

First of all let me say that I currently own and have a very small taste of Mana at the moment (P2 Reference wallshelf for my LP12). I'll be on the lookout to add more when funds allow as i quite like the stuff, probabbly a Stage and a 3,4,or 5 shelf Amp Rack, whichever i can find the cheapest s/h. There must be a point though where the benefits start to diminish.
I can see the logic of siting an LP12 TT on a light, strong, rigid platform, with a decoupled shelf. My LP12 users manual says as much and as such the Mana wallshelf fits this description perfectly, although so do several other designs out there.
I can see that each layer or phase of Mana is a light, strong, rigid structure with a decoupled shelf in its own right. When you start to mount it all with multi layers, and to a colosal hight as some folk do , doesn't the light and rigid aspect of the design start to diminish fairly rapidly ?
Also whats underneath you floor Bub, talk about the stilleto effect , your bottom spike must have some pressure underneath them . ( stilleto heals the bane of my life, they destroy the light compsite floorboards in Aircraft and muggins here has to repair/replace them ). I was a bit worried about the weight when i installed my 55 gal Aquarium so i reinforced the underfloor area, this was spread over a large area to, it still started creaking when i filled her up though.

 

I think that having got it all set-up correctly / successfully, I'd wait until the house fell down before I contemplated having to move it all and repeat the process. Still it's an opportunity for dusting though. At OA, I've noticed it's about 3 weeks before the stuff starts to look noticably dusty, so naturally I pull it all apart six months later when my conscience gets the better of me

Nice piccy's anyway bub btw, it's nice to see other set-ups, sort of hi-fi porn I suppose.

Cheers

 

tim,
surely 50% of the fun of owning mana is the honing of your obsessive/ compulsiveness to a fine point whilst setting it up. the other 50% is posting pictures of your 'stack(s)' and frightening the newbies. only joking james, a seriously impressive array of metal there, and not just the stands. nice one.
cheers


julian

 

Dunno really, just wondering out loud. I agree 4 & 9 aren't prime. One is only divisible by itself and one, which defines a prime number.

Yes it becomes heavy and flexible, but the LP12 (and the other kit) just keeps on getting better and better the more I have added. The LP12 manual was probably written before Mana came on the scene. The spikes do dig in to the floor, but then they stop.

Ta Timpy & julian. I think you'd possibly like the sound.

 

http://www.googlefight.com/cgi-bin/...on+sense&B1=Make+a+fight!&compare=1&langue=us
OR...
http://www.googlefight.com/cgi-bin/...wn+Noser&B1=Make+a+fight!&compare=1&langue=us
BUT to be fair to THE DEVIL...
http://www.googlefight.com/cgi-bin/...+analyst&B1=Make+a+fight!&compare=1&langue=us

It is interesting to tune in to this remarkably cliquey little forum.
So many pet subjects, so little parallel thinking.
Too many posters who read hi-fi mags in the late 80s or early 90s and spent disposable incomes in the 00s.
Linn, Naim, Mana Addiction marketing wins again!

How anyone can concentrate on 'level', 'speaker plane' and outside wall fixings and virtually ignore 'speaker phase, beaming and room acoustics beggars belief...

PS - 1 is not a prime number. Only divisible by itself AND one (i.e. two different numbers) is the criteria.

 

I would hazzard a guess then, that we've discovered your little pet subject ....... would you like a soapbox?

Ah, but from the information that you have to hand, how can you tell that these areas have been "virtually ignored"? I guess you'd have to hear it to assess the severity of these aspects that you suspect to have been passed over.

However, if it didn't sound good to Bub, then it wouldn't be like that would it? He may be a Mana enthusiast but that does not make him daft, so I wouldn't expend too much energy worrying about it.

Cheers

 

Hi Lord,

Throwing stones at The Devil?

 

So what was it that did?


Sorry, Bub, couldn't resist.

 

Markus, more like a compulsive obsessive with more that a smattering for ringing or should that be 'Tings'