My Rega P5 dem

[merlin]

I'm just looking forward to enjoying more music
Michael.

Excellent! Why not take an afternoon to play around at Walrus whilst you are over? Can't do any harm, and will allow you to listen to Michells and NA for comparison purposes? At least then you have some points of reference.

 

[merlin]

Aren't you forgetting something...the cartridge?

Well that's going to cost you extra on any of the decks in question isn't it. Of course the money saved on the Scout would allow provision for a better cart

 

[merlin]

Merlin,

A Scout with SDS?

What's SDS if you don't mind me asking.

TIA.

JonR

Sorry Jon, didn't see that. The SDS is a power regenerating PSU which is infinately adjustable for perfect pitch.

 

[joel]

So Scout (ship from AA or Elusive Disc) £1,000 incl. shipping and taxes. P7 £1,300. Close but no cigar

Would I be correct in saying that that is with the 899$ price at elusive disc? Despite what it says on the web page, that price doesn't seem to include an arm. With the standard VPI arm the price is 1,599$ or 839UKP + shipping + taxes.
That would add up to more than a grand I would have thought.
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Edited to add:
And that excludes the all-important dust cover at 249$

 

[JonR]

Merlin,

Thanks for your replies!

Regards,

JonR

 

[merlin]

With the standard VPI arm the price is 1,599$ or 839UKP + shipping + taxes.
That would add up to more than a grand I would have thought.

Joel, they charge $60 for shipping and it's reasonably easy to get $100 off the published price

So £1,000 seems about right, give or take a few quid. You can alternatively buy from the UK distribulor for £1,095 and have the back up many crave. Ken, the UK distributor has been in the hifi industry for longer than most of you have lived

So we still have comparable quality at lower prices - hopefully others will think of this when shopping in the new year

 

[joel]

So we still have comparable quality at lower prices - hopefully others will think of this when shopping in the new year

Plus 250$ for the dustcover. And I assume Ken will also travel to Lisbon at his own expense to help Michael set up his new TT

 

[joel]

Merlin,
BTW, I see that Elusive also stock Trigon. You may want to check their phono stages out.

 

[joel]

PS, the cheapest quote for shipping to GB from the website is 152$ Is that a mistake?
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Edited to add:
192$ if I include the dust cover.

 

[merlin]

Plus 250$ for the dustcover. And I assume Ken will also travel to Lisbon at his own expense to help Michael set up his new TT

Err no Joel -the Scout comes with a serviceable if unattractive dust cover. It's more if you want something like the Clearcover.

I was quoted $1560 Shipped just before xmas, email them and ask the question Joel. It's something to do with not advertising Vpi at discounted prices.

And no, Ken wouldn't travel to Lisbon. But £200 to set up a Rega? Come on - even I can set one of those up And given the tools included with the Scout (alignment protractor, screwdrivers, allen keys etc..), I was able to set it up in no time myself, no guru required

Any which way you try and bias this in favour of the traditional Rega brand, you cannot deny the Vpi represents excellent value for money and should be considered along with the other alternatives. Unless of course you prefer the sound of the P7 or Spacedeck, in which case, a comparison would be required to reach that conclusion.

 

[joel]

Err no Joel -the Scout comes with a serviceable if unattractive dust cover. It's more if you want something like the Clearcover.

I was quoted $1560 Shipped just before xmas, email them and ask the question Joel. It's so mething to do with not advertising Vpi at discounted prices.

That's not what it says on the website, although there is a cheap (59$) semi cover, which is certainly not the same quality as the Rega. And of course Michael can always ask his dealer for a discount.

And no, Ken wouldn't travel to Lisbon. But £200 to set up a Rega?

If you want it done right, the first time, why not.

Any which way you try and bias this in favour of the traditional Rega brand,

I'm only trying to clarify the situation.
Frankly, I couldn't give a damn one way or t'other. I have a better deck than either Rega or VPI, and it cost me a whole lot less, too.

 

[merlin]

Frankly, I couldn't give a damn one way or t'other. I have a better deck than either Rega or VPI, and it cost me a whole lot less, too.

If that's the same NA as I listened to, then let's just say we hear things very differently Joel

Michael,

if you are over this month, do feel free to drop in. I'll give you an a/b or the two decks in question if you like - can even be done blind

 

[LiloLee]

And no, Ken wouldn't travel to Lisbon. But £200 to set up a Rega? Come on - even I can set one of those up And given the tools included with the Scout (alignment protractor, screwdrivers, allen keys etc..), I was able to set it up in no time myself, no guru required

I seem to remember you needing SideShowBob help in setting yours up and I'm sure when it comes to TT setups he is a guru.

 

[michaelab]

This isn't really going anywhere. Look, I listened to the P5, I compared it to a well known "reference" TT in the same system, I liked it a lot. It meets all my criteria and it sounds stunning. So there are alternatives at a similar price that I might also like - so what? There's no point in "doing a Nuno Baptista" searching for the perfect TT for my budget for months whilst I could be listening to music instead . I don't think I have any pro-Rega bias, I don't have enough TT experience yet to form a bias but it's simply the best and most convenient option open to me in my current circumstances.

Merlin - I'm back in London this evening and will be around this w/e but Saturday is already booked up with the visit to Julian's place but if you have time on Sunday or one evening then I'd be interested in a visit - PM me.

Michael.

 

[sideshowbob]

I seem to remember you needing SideShowBob help in setting yours up and I'm sure when it comes to TT setups he is a guru.

I spotted immediately that he had it upside down. That eye for detail takes years to acquire.

-- Ian

 

[merlin]

I seem to remember you needing SideShowBob help in setting yours up and I'm sure when it comes to TT setups he is a guru.

Lee,

I was lacking scales and an alan key as sadly was Ian. Still managed to set it up myself the following week in about 10 minutes, although having Ian's "laying of palms" style blessing so to speak would most likely take it to another level.

I agree Michael, I only wanted anyone reading this to remember the name for future reference. I hope I have acheived that.

 

[JonR]

I agree Michael, I only wanted anyone reading this to remember the name for future reference. I hope I have acheived that.

You've certainly achieved that!

Regards,

JonR

PS: Would you adam-and-eve it - someone was selling a Scout on Hififorsale just two weeks ago - £750! Well it certainly made me think...

 

[bottleneck]

Ahh Jon, well second hand is a different ball game, completely out of the remit of this thread IMHO... we should start a new thread to argue about the best TT new for 1300, and used for 750. It would be fun

NB
Completely off the wall, but the devil in me imagines using the VPI power supply on other turntables...it seems to be a very cheap and powerful power supply unit for the money... maybe on an LP12... a one way ticket to damnation by the god Linn and his mighty cohorts!!!!

 

[michaelab]

PS: Would you adam-and-eve it - someone was selling a Scout on Hififorsale just two weeks ago - £750! Well it certainly made me think...

I think you'll find that was merlin himself . Also advertised here.

Michael.

 

[JonR]

Hee hee, well whaddaya know??

Mind you, he was also selling the Dynavector 20XH with it as well - which is what you're getting with your P5, isn't it Michael?

JonR