Naims new cable........

[Paul Ranson]

They however have never been into exotic cables

Define 'exotic'.

Paul

 

[Paul Ranson]

I think you need to explain yourself

I thought it was pretty clear.

Anyway why start a thread with a bogus premise? Naim are clearly not 'cable sceptics' and haven't been for at least 25 years. They just have a different view of what's important.

Paul

 

[Stereo Mic]

Define 'exotic'.

Paul

Coloured like a Peach

 

[Paul Ranson]

I thought everyone accepted that the same wire in different colours sounds different? Too many closed minds around here.

Paul

 

[zanash]

Please reread my original post

I never said naim, were cable sceptics....

you have wrongly assumed thats what I meant ......

Which still doesn't explain your comment ?

julian said
"Because they don't know what they're doing?"
paul said
"You mean just like Zanash?"

So spit it out....... tell us all What it is that "I don't know what I'm doing " I'm certain it could be fascinating reading

 

[bottleneck]

err it was me! (chris)

I do find Naim's ''cable shaking'' machine quite hilarious. The arrows you can ignore, but ''cable shaking'' !!

 

[julian2002]

i didn't say that.....

 

[Paul Ranson]

I'm certain it could be fascinating reading

If they don't know what they are doing then neither do you.

Not really complicated.

You said,

Does this mean all the cable sceptics have been wrong all this time or are Naim jumping on the cable band wagon, to rip a few punters off ?

Well, Naim jumped on the cable bandwagon some 25 or more years ago. Your comment makes no sense however it's read.

Paul

 

[Stereo Mic]

So spit it out....... tell us all What it is that "I don't know what I'm doing "

You don't do peach. I don't think you even do lilac or lavender. Do I really need to spell this out for you?

 

[stephen]

Have I heard Naims Hi line? Yes, extensively.
Does it work?
I can clearly hear a difference that is worthwhile.
Is it worth £500.
To me, yes. To others, possibly not.
Is it the best I have heard?
No.
That is Indigo in colour & even more expensive.
Each to his own.
Mine will be indigo as soon as I can afford it.

 

[zanash]

i didn't say that.....

My abject and humble appologies ......I must have imagined the post




Paul ...You do not know me and I don't know you, I would never dream of besmearching your or anyone else's charactor by saying the same, especially if I don't know them.

As you have clearly misread and misundestood my post, especially as nobody else has, I'll forgive your misjudgment .

 

[julian2002]

it was chris heeeee did it....

to be honest if naim want to release a new cable then good luck to 'em they've always been a bit dotty in the way of cables though - sticking to the din standard, using 2 core outdoor electrical cable as speaker wire, shaking things on a special machine. personally i'll stick to maplins, some eichmanns and my dodgy soldering skills thank you very much.
cheers


julian.

 

[Paul Ranson]

I would never dream of besmearching your or anyone else's charactor by saying the same

I haven't besmirched your character.

I'll make it really simple. Naim have peculiar views on cables, and have done for ever. You have peculiar views on cables. Bottleneck suggests this means Naim don't know what they're doing. This implies that he believes you don't know what you're doing either since there's no way of determining which of you and Naim is right. Your argument is with Bottleneck's joke about cable mythologists rather than with me.

Regardless I don't understand your motivations for starting this thread.

Paul

 

[dunkyboy]

how can something be mechanically decoupled (as if that would make a difference) and still conduct electricity without creatign a spark - which would be against some regulations surely?

Coil the ends of the cables into springs? Might cause weird electrical effects, but it would serve to decouple to an extent. Maybe some other form of spring that doesn't involve coils? Leaf-spring perhaps?

Dunc

 

[zanash]

Here's a tip Paul ....

When in a hole stop digging


I'm in favour of Naims cable efforts........How much clearer can I make it ?

The point is naim users tend not to be ....do you get it now or do I still need to spell it out ....hells teeth

 

[julian2002]

looking at zanash's initial post he poses a question as to whether naim have been 'believers all along' or are jumping on the bandwaggon with their new cable.

this is a tricky one - naim have always had strange views on cables but they've usually been reasonably priced (in the context of audio cables) and haven;t advocated spending silly money on cables i'd say they were pretty sensible before - allowing enough voodoo for placebo gains without going mad - now at £500 for some wire they are as mad as nordost...

dunky, surely none of those is going to be good for the signal?
cheers


julian

 

[michaelab]

Regardless I don't understand your motivations for starting this thread.

Clearly an attempt to bait the cable sceptics...and it's backfired

 

[dunkyboy]

dunky, surely none of those is going to be good for the signal?

Design (in all fields, but in hifi especially...) is all about compromises.

Dunc

 

[bottleneck]

Bottleneck suggests this means Naim don't know what they're doing. This implies that he believes you don't know what you're doing either since there's no way of determining which of you and Naim is right. Your argument is with Bottleneck's joke about cable mythologists rather than with me.

Paul

Kind of.

I'd say that I think Naim have some pretty whacked out ideas about what works in audio, and what's a good idea...

for example 'whacked out' - a machine for cable shaking, putting arrows on non-directional cables.

'not a very good idea' - a proprietry connection system which makes it harder to use the equipment with other brands. (why not XLR , or if slumming it RCA?) .. or at least both?

I do feel when I hear a company marketing ideas like ''cable shaking''... I look at them in another light when making other claims, no matter how sensible the other claim/marketing may be. THis is only natural I think..

For example, if I told you that putting purple dots on the ceiling improved the sound of my hifi, you might not put any sway by the next thing I might say, no matter how sensible.



I don't want to have any arguements with anybody about what they think works, I'm quite happy for everybody to have a different opinion to me. It makes life more interesting

In terms of Pete (zanash) I respect his generosity to other people on the forum, but we simply have a different take on the effect that some tweaks make. Its a small difference in life.

Besides, its sunny outside, I should be out there

 

[julian2002]

chris,
purple dots on the ceiling you say hmmmm......

and yes why aren;t you 40 miles up the canal? i'm dissapointed in you i must say - at least i've got an excuse..... bloody contract.
cheers


julian.