New Power Cable test proposal

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    Saab

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    Ok,instead of me pm'ing,just put me down for the one I mentioned earlier:)
     
    Saab, Oct 3, 2005
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    Can't use that now saab

    thanks anyway.
     
    Kiang, Oct 3, 2005
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    No donations of an aftermarket lead yet guys.
    No aftermarket cable - no test.
    Sadly this is true as the test will fail to be of interest to anyone if we do not use an aftermarket cable that many/most people can identify with.
    It should be a cable that is reasonably widely sold/bought for its benefits - and "current"
    Many of you would have seen the kind of flak a trial like this will need to take and being a largely subjective test, it is essential that all else is fairly robust in the trial.

    I have already spent a bit of time on this and its design (thoroughly enjoyable thus far until this "lag phase") and am now a bit impatient and fear that this might kill it.

    I think that by now most of our members have had a chance to see and take part in the discussion and if by monday little is forthcoming I think this trial should be abandoned.

    Pity - I thought it was a good idea.

    If donating -please do not reveal the identity of the lead on the forum , PM me.
     
    Kiang, Oct 8, 2005
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    3DSonics away working hard on "it"

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    Hi,

    Is there a specific reason that it needs to be an "AFTERMARKET" cable?

    How about comparing a screened eupen ferrite loaded cable to generic stuff? They are pretty readily and cheaply available, I'd recommend using a "filtered" version, that is with build in filter.

    The result should be a cable about as different as it gets compared to generic cable, but hardly different looking. It should be possible to get all cables "anonymised"....

    Ciao T
     
    3DSonics, Oct 8, 2005
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    Like you say this will/should work.
    However the "man in the street" I think wishes to justify spending/not spending money on this piece of kit that many people swear by.
    The cable you suggest may well prove/disprove the hypothesis but will not be something the average punter can identify with.
    We have a few volunteers which is good but these guys will be spending money posting this parcel of cables around the country. I want to make sure the test leads are familiar to most and something they can easily identify with.
     
    Kiang, Oct 8, 2005
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    Hi,

    I am really worried now. I have offered you an option for an easily disguised cable that is cheap, readily availble and of a design and construction that maximises the chance of having a difference detectable, as it clearly does a number of things very differently.

    You promptly reject the cable on specious grounds, do you fear to set up a test that is meaningful?

    Ciao T
     
    3DSonics, Oct 8, 2005
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    I can see where this discussion is headed.

    Thanks for your input 3DSonics.

    Dear all (else) - please refer to previous post about imminent demise of trial.
     
    Kiang, Oct 8, 2005
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    Nevertheless,the question as to why you have rejected 3Ds cable is a good one.You asked for a cable,he offered one,you rejected it because its not a brand name?
     
    Saab, Oct 8, 2005
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    In short - Yes

    It is not the sort of cable an average hi-fi punter is likely to own/buy/demo - not currently anyway.
    Like I said it does not mean it will not work but it is likely to have little "familiarity" with the user.
    I don't want to be re-doing this by improving on it each time , volunteers have agreed to give their valuable time and hence a set of cables more relevant to current hi-fi buying trends is likely to be better recieved IMO
     
    Kiang, Oct 8, 2005
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    Hi,

    Funny that. One US company (JPS) repackes Eupen Cable in their own livery (and WITHOUT ANY CHANGE aparently) and has been gathering great reviews:

    http://jpslabs.com/powercord.shtml#dac

    Investigations by some people on AA revealed this $ 350 cable to be a standard Eupen item available at $ 30 per pack of 5 "dressed up":

    http://www.audioasylum.com/audio/general/messages/325908.html

    And Audusa distribute them in the UK as specialist mains cables and again received great reviews.:

    http://www.audusa.com/eupen.htm

    Given that this clearly eliminates your objections, how about you see that you get a set of Eupen IMU-14 for test, a highly recommended approach as these cables are garanteed electrically safe and all that. As for dressing this and all the generic cables up as "high end" cable, please see what JPS are doing with Eupen and apply to all cables.

    Ciao T
     
    3DSonics, Oct 8, 2005
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    We have an aftermarket cable now - kindly donated by one of our members from the wigwam for the test.

    Its a go-er !

    As regards volunteers - recruitment will continue till the last volunteer has recieved the set of cables.

    Will contact volunteers once cables sorted
     
    Kiang, Oct 10, 2005
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