New Speaker Recommendations - £3.5k-£4.5k

isn't that the sort of question you ask before developing ''speakers that retail between £3,500 and £4,500''

maybe there's a trade organsisation that collates that kind of information (BADA)?
 
7_V said:
To return to the topic of speakers that retail between £3,500 and £4,500, does anyone have any evidence that sales are actually occuring in this sector? It would be nice to know before I take my kids to visit Father Christmas this year. ;)
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We had nigh on 1000 pre-orders for the P6. I'm not really able to say much more than that.
 
johnhunt said:
isn't that the sort of question you ask before developing ''speakers that retail between £3,500 and £4,500''
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:D :D
You're not seriously suggesting that I should sully my 'search for truth and beauty' with vulgar considerations of marketing, are you? :D

Tons of Fun said:
We had nigh on 1000 pre-orders for the P6.
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Woohoo! (hears the ringing of cash registers in head). Merry Christmas!
 
Those 1000 orders, was that via a dealer or the dealers themselves or are these straight from yourselves? Just wondering.

Steve, how did the previous nonsuch speakers perform?? What about really really lowering your standards and getting some rags to review them. Im sure the brown parcel delivered with the goods dictates how good the review is..................
 
Anyway Steve, surely the missus can do a few more hours or even a part-time job if it doesnt go well, just remind her that there are 24 working hrs in the day.
 
T-bone Sanchez said:
Steve, how did the previous nonsuch speakers perform?? What about really really lowering your standards and getting some rags to review them. Im sure the brown parcel delivered with the goods dictates how good the review is..................
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I think that the previous Nonsuch 4 speakers performed very well. Their problem was that they were very costly to make and this made them rather expensive.

They were reviewed by Paul Messenger in Hi-Fi+ magazine and Paul is a reviewer I respect for being very straight. I would be happy to have him review the new speakers but it's likely that the first review will be with an Internet-based publication.

Cheers
Steve

BTW, You can link to reviews, including the Hi-Fi+ review from the reviews section of my web site.
 
Hi,

7_V said:
To return to the topic of speakers that retail between £3,500 and £4,500, does anyone have any evidence that sales are actually occuring in this sector?
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Well, as far as I know the Hyperion's (£ 3750) sell about as quick as real hi-fi brings them in. Here a warning. I think they sell well because they are such totally mainstream, boring and largely average. They do sound well enough and have that Watt/Puppy sound at quarter money cachet, but to me they have the same glaring faults most speakers have.

On the other hand, the similarly priced and much more interesting (sound and technologywise) Hoerning Perikles (£ 4,400) sell poorely, other even more radical speakers tail even behind that.

It tells me that there are many more sales in making the speaker as everybody else, just a little better and cheaper than there are in radical design that are exceptional...

Ciao T
 
3DSonics said:
It tells me that there are many more sales in making the speaker as everybody else, just a little better and cheaper than there are in radical design that are exceptional...
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We're neither of us in that business, are we?

Radical changes took place in speaker design as we moved from mono to stereo. Speakers changed from being large boxes in room corners to the generally much smaller stereo speakers of today. Now, we're moving from stereo to 5-1 and we'll see more radical changes and a further decrease in size, even at the high end.

I doubt if many people will be buying stereo only gear over the next 10 years and think that most high end systems will include a large, flat screen. Luckily, the price of screens will continue to fall so customers can go back to spending their hard-earned on the sounds - as they should. I sense that we will be selling sound quality as the way to enhance the experience of movies, of music and of television. If that's true and even high end systems move from 2 speakers to 6, the spouse is bound to have an increasing say in what speakers are allowed in the house.

As manufacturers search for creative solutions to this upheaval in the market we will go through a period of rapid change in design and of divergence. So, as the sage said:

Before enlightenment - 'me too' speakers at lower prices
During enlightenment - radical innovation and downsizing
After enlightenment - 'me too' speakers at lower prices

Long live enlightenment.

Regards
Steve
 
Hi,

7_V said:
We're neither of us in that business, are we?
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Nope. My point was to say that there are significant sales in the 3.5-4.5K Speaker region, but they are concentrated in the mainstream. Just to moderate your expectation...

Ciao T
 
Whatever your money will get you in the Von Schweikert VR-4 line-up, there are three different variants starting from the VR-4JR up to the VR-4SE

I used to have a pair of the VR-4.5 Silver Anniversary's, simply awesome!
 
3DSonics said:
On the other hand, the similarly priced and much more interesting (sound and technologywise) Hoerning Perikles (£ 4,400) sell poorely, other even more radical speakers tail even behind that.

Ciao T
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Another vote for the Hoernings...
The Agathons are rather lovely as well - almost tempted me away from the Dittons!
 
ListeningEar said:
Whatever your money will get you in the Von Schweikert VR-4 line-up, there are three different variants starting from the VR-4JR up to the VR-4SE

I used to have a pair of the VR-4.5 Silver Anniversary's, simply awesome!
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LE,

Heard these now, not impressed at all
The Chap I accquired my current speakers from had the Anniversarys after I purchased them from him. He too was very disappointed with them (dealer too). Whished he hadn't sold them to me :D
Ugly as sin too.
 
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hehe!

I know a lot of people on 'The EchoLoft' forum seem to like them. Still I suppose it might just back up Thorsten's suggestion that people generally like 'normal', not so brilliant speakers more than exceptional, but different ones.
 
leonard smalls said:
Another vote for the Hoernings...
The Agathons are rather lovely as well - almost tempted me away from the Dittons!
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Hi Lenoard,

Did you get to hear a new pair of Agathons recently? I hope to be checking out the latest Agathons and Perikles speakers from Horning.


SCIDB
 
SCIDB said:
Hi Lenoard,

Did you get to hear a new pair of Agathons recently? I hope to be checking out the latest Agathons and Perikles speakers from Horning.


SCIDB
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I only heard the old Agathons - which www.audiolincs.co.uk had a pair of for about £3k if I remember correctly.
Lovely musical beast, good bass, not annoyingly hifi...
Apparantly the new ones are the same, but more..
 


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