RobHolt said:
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Oh I do understand it - really, its just that this is a public forum for enthusiasts to exchange ideas and discuss audio related issues. I question you and suggest that you include a simple piece of guidance with your cables and you throw your toys out of the pram.
For a better understanding of what is important in cable design I'd suggest you start here with this AES paper:
http://www.luacheia.com/misc_images/cableInteractions.pdf
You won't find much on Yin and Yang, or natural harmony but it handles the basics well.
Here is another perfect example why the conversation should end. I have no toys in my pram to throw out, and nothing I have said is personal or confrontational. It is your misunderstanding. I have explained why I differ in opinion. I have expressed the view that you are parroting little understood promotional design characteristics of other products and using those to judge my products. Those statements of yours are then invalid and I have tried to explain why.
There is no need for a *paper* as there is nothing to do. You took it on yourself to make a decision to do something that someone else had recomended for their product, not mine. I simply said what you had done goes against the design principle of the cable, so in principle I didn't agree with it, but I did not believe you had done it enough to cause a problem or make a difference, Do you understand now?
I have been trying to explain that what I am working with now (not when LS1 was developed) involves energetic concepts that go far further than just audio subjective assessment. Quoting or linking to AES papers will not change things associated with that. Show me where those intellectual masturbation things influence the real world and I will listen. Objectivism is simplistic intellectualisation, satisfying the frontal lobe. Music and musical reproduction is far deeper than that and the way the human body reacts to and passes energetic stimilii is analogous in many ways to the way Hi-Fi reproduces it. It is like a primitive robot of the way we utilise it internally, but it is still largely doing the job, why? I link you to a post earlier on another topic where I refer to the man with a hearing aid who was finding musical differences as applicable and as easily as the fully hearing, but from a lower base point. Write an AES paper about that!
As it stands there is no objective or subjective reason to change my cable, tell people to twist it, or not as the case may be. Or to lose my temper or throw toys out my pram. So many threads and posts on discussion lists lead to these conclusions and confusions as you have no ability to read my energy as you would have if this conversation was face to face, so you misunderstand to facilitate your prerogative. In fact apart from the fact that it is obvious to me that you haven't understood me, but believe you have, is the only frustration in this conversation, and the only reason I said to end it. If there was communication I would enjoy it, otherwise what is the point of doing it!
Peace! time for bed.
Richard
PS I wrote this years ago but it is still largely valid on the objective side.
THE GENESIS REPORT: INDUSTRY AND EXPERT FEEDBACK
By publishing The Genesis Report, QED has returned the Great Cable Debate to its scientific roots. CYBERFi asked a number of leading amplifier manufacturers for their response to the conclusions of QED's investigation.
Representatives from Naim, NVA and LFD join cables expert Malcolm Hawksford of Essex University to cast a critical eye over the new white paper, assessing its findings in the light of their own research
RICHARD DUNN of NVA says:
The report is both right and wrong. In my view high resistance is not the issue. What determines the way that cables affect system performance to a far greater degree is the output impedance of an amplifier. The question of cable inductance, capacitance and resistance has to be considered as an integral part of the amplifier/cable/loudspeaker interfacing equation. Amplifiers such as NVA's, Naim's and Exposure's which do no have a Zobell network on the output, are sensitive to the effects of capacitance and inductance. Transistor amplifiers with Zobell networks or output filtering and valve amplifiers with transformer coupling on their outputs are not so sensitive. If an amplifier has negligible output impedance (ie the damping factor is high), the effect of relatively high cable resistance is minimal. Our LS1 cable is a fairly high resistance cable, but our amplifiers have a 0.0065 ohm output impedance, so there are no ill effects.
Cable directionality is a audible phenomenon. Indeed cable performance can vary with even more obscure factors than this. I have found with solid core cable it is possible to create directionality over a period of time. It's as if the cable beds-in when used aligned one way. If you then reverse one of the cables it can sound worse. But if left, it will bed-in once more over a period of time.
I agree that the cable dielectric is more important than the conductor purity. However if you coat a copper cable in silver, the change will affect performance as much as any change in dielectric material. The dielectric is know to affect cable capacitance more than any other factor with the exception of using Litz construction. Output transformers and Zobell networks hide the deficiencies of cables. So the danger is the wrong cable solution can be prescribed. High capacitance cables apply a cure to the bad audible effects of Zobell networks and output transformers, but as in medicine, it would be much preferable to not have the condition in the first place!
I welcome QED's report. The use of scientific techniques to help evaluate cable is to be applauded. My concern is whether the tests have been carried out in sufficient depth. Individual manufacturers are usually the best source of recommendation for suitable cable to partner their products. Ultimately the big issues concerning cable are the same as those affecting systems. It's all about interfaces from the start of the recording chain to the final link when playing back through a hi-fi system.