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My life just wouldn't be complete without it's daily fix of the ZG cable wars. It's better than any soap opera. Keep it up guys:D
 
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Should your view be different to the above, then you are plainly and simply misguided and therfore WRONG

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is therfore like therefore?...

or is it subliminal?... if you're therfore wrong, you're not actually wrong, but right because of the error?
 
Ay, there ' s the rub! Well spotted bottleneck. Ten times "SP" for me in the margin above.
 
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sq225917 said:
SM, so you'll sell someone a high zoot Isolda cable 'knowing' it doesn't/ can't make a difference, when it suits your needs.

But you'll lay into others, who do beleive in cable magic, for doing the same thing.

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Mike

I've just been kinda curous about this myself...

sq's just put my thoughts into words....??
 
he must be taking a day off to review the evidence before coming back with a witty repost that ignores the question.
 
Knowing Mike (as I do) - or Stereo Mic on here, I can tell you that his conversion to cable scepticism is reasonably recent.

I remember talking to him not so very long ago ( a year maybe?) and he said that an interconnect changed his system completely (or was it a power cable, I don't know).

It takes quite something to say that you were wrong, and admit to that. It's quite a difficult thing to do.

Bub did a similar thing in regard of the LP12. He discovered it wasn't the ultimate deck he thought it was, and was man enough to admit it.

You could call SM the cable equivalent of a ''reformed smoker'' if you like, but I don't personally believe there is anything wrong (at all) in changing your opinion about something and admitting it.

Like I say, it's hard to admit you've been wrong. Kudos to him for that.
 
What a bunch of pathetic snide characters this forum seems to have attracted recently.

All rather unnecessary.
 
I agree with BN, however its one thing to admit you are wrong - but you also have to learn from your mistake and not repeat it. A lesson Mike appears to have learnt but not bub.
 
"What a bunch of pathetic snide characters this forum seems to have attracted recently.

All rather unnecessary."

as are/were the contiual references to audiphools, bating of those who might care/want to spend more than bell wire money on cables. I have certainly felt the mood here to have been fairly opressive of late. Its funny how some people can bring out the worst in one. :(

For myself it has not been the arguement itself but the referral to people here "being thick as pigshit and "fucking clueless" - that I think is totally unneccessary. Or the belief by others that we are all lost and need saving from the evil demon cable manufacturers/peddlers.

For what its worth - I don't run expensive cables myself - use Van Damme speaker cable - have spent a few bob extra on interconnects, but nothing to write home about.

As to the image I posted - Mods feel free to delete the post, it was kind of tongue in cheek - especially as I have read more than once - that "an important job needed to be done";)

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bottleneck said:
Knowing Mike (as I do) - or Stereo Mic on here, I can tell you that his conversion to cable scepticism is reasonably recent.

I remember talking to him not so very long ago ( a year maybe?) and he said that an interconnect changed his system completely (or was it a power cable, I don't know).

It takes quite something to say that you were wrong, and admit to that. It's quite a difficult thing to do.

Bub did a similar thing in regard of the LP12. He discovered it wasn't the ultimate deck he thought it was, and was man enough to admit it.

You could call SM the cable equivalent of a ''reformed smoker'' if you like, but I don't personally believe there is anything wrong (at all) in changing your opinion about something and admitting it.

Like I say, it's hard to admit you've been wrong. Kudos to him for that.
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Do me a favour.
It's not the f*****g Jeremy Kyle show.
Or maybe it is ;
"...today I want to tell you all I'm a reformed drug addict"
audience; APPLAUSE
" ...but I still deal a bit..."
audience; "Boooooooooooooooo"
 
cooky1257 said:
Do me a favour.
It's not the f*****g Jeremy Kyle show.
Or maybe it is ;
"...today I want to tell you all I'm a reformed drug addict"
audience; APPLAUSE
" ...but I still deal a bit..."
audience; "Boooooooooooooooo"
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bottleneck said:
You could call SM the cable equivalent of a ''reformed smoker'' if you like, but I don't personally believe there is anything wrong (at all) in changing your opinion about something and admitting it.

Like I say, it's hard to admit you've been wrong. Kudos to him for that.
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and.........er, all this scientific evidence Mike has at his fingertips has just been discovered in the last 12 months.....?



:D sorry Mike :)
 
Many moons ago I had a demo of speaker cables with the Chord rep at Sevenoaks in Kingston. I took Townshend Isolda (which I had on home demo at the time) and the rep brought Signature, and the "new" Epic.
The differences between Signature and Isolda came down to personal preference, I believe. The Isolda sounded more natural, the Signature a little more 'forced' in its presentation. When we put Epic into the system, the rep and I looked at each other and simultaneously shook our heads. It sounded awful.
Whether there were measurable differences or not, they sounded different.

I can only speak from my own experience, and I am not qualified to consider 'scientific' implications. It was not done under controlled conditions etc. etc. but the experience was shared by the representative and myself, and we both had the same reaction to the Epic. Naturally enough, being a Chord rep, he preferred the Signature's presentation, but I the Townshend's. BUT - they were different.
 
bottleneck said:
Knowing Mike (as I do) - or Stereo Mic on here, I can tell you that his conversion to cable scepticism is reasonably recent.

I remember talking to him not so very long ago ( a year maybe?) and he said that an interconnect changed his system completely (or was it a power cable, I don't know).

It takes quite something to say that you were wrong, and admit to that. It's quite a difficult thing to do.

Bub did a similar thing in regard of the LP12. He discovered it wasn't the ultimate deck he thought it was, and was man enough to admit it.

You could call SM the cable equivalent of a ''reformed smoker'' if you like, but I don't personally believe there is anything wrong (at all) in changing your opinion about something and admitting it.

Like I say, it's hard to admit you've been wrong. Kudos to him for that.
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regardless of which side of the fence I am on - Good post Bottleneck
 
Oooh I see a mob gathering. With shouts of death to the non-believer and bits of wanky cable in their hands. "These will help the inky blackness of the afterlife"......
 
.... He was cold. Mike opened his eyes and looked. He was tied to a granite table which was sitting on 16 layers of steel and rubber, some wooden cones and 4 large ball bearings. "Oh no" thought Mike "It can't be". A voice boomed "Mike you have been brought here because you have lost the faith". The voice of the God of Tweakery continued "Worse than that you have been found guilty of worshiping at the false God of Science". "The punishment is death buy a thousand RCA plugs".

The crowd surged forward gold tipped wanky wire in hand. They plunged their plugs into Mike and he was gone.

Some enterprising sole then used Mike's blood in the construction of a new range of digital ic's.
 
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