teenage pregs.

Gazz
You are talking bollocks.
Unlike most 'contributors' to this bile I actually lived on a council estate from birth until the age of 22. What you describe never happened on the Manchester council estate where I was raised.

Bob
 
GAZZ said:
Some people are only moderately educated this is the goverments fault when they were in school..
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Totally disagree - tis back to the parents and the vicious generation cycle. Why do you say that GAZZ? Do you think its a curriculum problem?

If society can solve this issue (ie respect for education through all levels), then this country will be a much better place.

I should state that I dont read the Mail (I hate it with a passion).
 
GAZZ said:
One more question who's worse the benefit cheat or the tax dodger. Both are cheating the country and other tax payers.
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personally I think some of the things in the name of tax are immoral and unethical

keeping the useless royals in luxury

paying the useless bbc when I don't watch much, they have lost the plot.

funding the time wasting mps and exorbitant amount of cash

being ripped off on the roads and not getting anything back

having my cash wasted on the olympics, too I don't want it and don't want to pay

funding the army of useless think tanks, quangos, consultants and endless beurocrats that waste our cash despicably

personally, I take pride in dodging customs

Bob, you are starting to rival Mick Parry in ascerbity.
 
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Council estates were all nice when they started, after slum clearance. They had a random cross section of good and bad in the same mix as the UK. However, we now have mobility, and an obscession with buying property. So the mix changes from 20 or 40 years back. If a council estate is still quiet and safe, with little traffic, it will still be desirable, and 'nice' people will be offered housing. If it's a dump, because the traffic is heavy - so most people with half a brain have left, it will be used as a sink for idiots who the council are obliged to assist with housing.
The problems are caused by choice and freedom, just as with schools, hospitals etc.
There should be entropy in all these systems, not artificial selection and polarisation
 
bob mccluckie said:
Gazz
You are talking bollocks.
Unlike most 'contributors' to this bile I actually lived on a council estate from birth until the age of 22. What you describe never happened on the Manchester council estate where I was raised.

Bob
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Did in chester and people were evicted. Then came the cut backs
 
lAmBoY said:
Totally disagree - tis back to the parents and the vicious generation cycle. Why do you say that GAZZ? Do you think its a curriculum problem?

If society can solve this issue (ie respect for education through all levels), then this country will be a much better place.

I should state that I dont read the Mail (I hate it with a passion).
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Can you remember when most girls didn't do well i can. I am not talking of the clever students but the rest. Children are given a better chance now than in the 70's early 80's
 
Lt Cdr Data said:
personally I think some of the things in the name of tax are immoral and unethical

keeping the useless royals in luxury

paying the useless bbc when I don't watch much, they have lost the plot.

funding the time wasting mps and exorbitant amount of cash

being ripped off on the roads and not getting anything back

having my cash wasted on the olympics, too I don't want it and don't want to pay

funding the army of useless think tanks, quangos, consultants and endless beurocrats that waste our cash despicably

personally, I take pride in dodging customs

Bob, you are starting to rival Mick Parry in ascerbity.
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I am talking of the illegal dodging
 
What's so wrong with children getting pregnant? It's seemingly part of the natural order of things, as it happens in most, if not all human societies around the world.
 
I agrees with her in a roundabout way. This generation of career MPs we get are only good enough to be reacting to peoples worries and passions. They are not really leaders of the society. People who are worried enough about certain things usually took steps do something them long before MPs decided to jump onto the bandwagon. So as she says don't wait around hoping the goverment will cure all society ills.

Nothing wrong bub. In other parts of the world teenages trying to have babies without a supportive family usually die. Just nature.
 
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There's nothing wrong with them doing what they want imo, they get married in some countries at 12.
the problem is when they want £31k a year and a big house all kept by taxpayers, or men for that matter.
It may be a truism to say men just want women for sex, but then again, women use men for babies and cash and houses, so all they can do is go out shopping and talk with friends in cafes whilst expecting the man to pay for it. :duck:
 
I'm not that sort of doctor, but I would imagine that there would be a fairly wide spread (snurk!) of "ideal" maternal ages, reflecting differing stages of physical maturation between individual girls.
 
In a rationally organised world, women would have children between ages, say, 14 and 25, and society would be set up so that they are still able to build their lives.

It is a huge waste of resources that educated women in the industrialised countries are postponing their first pregnancies longer and longer. It keeps the number of children down, and it raises the cost of children to society.
 
Again my uneducated guess would be early 30s women cope better then early teens.

I could easily imaging if a slim teenager body that is still growing and not fully developed yet suddenly got pregnant might overload easily as her body can't put her own growth on hold while she now need grow an extra 'lung' that is required not only to develop and sustain an additional human within her own that body.

What do you think?
 
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ISTR that lowest maternal and baby morbidity and mortality is late teens & early twenties. A mother in her thirties is considered "elderly", in medical terms.
 


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