[QUOTE=Saab]VPI H16.5 record cleaner thanks to a strong pound,i was able to order one for only £320 inc delivery,they are sold for 460 even on Ebay[/QUOTE] Since we're talkin' cleaners too, my vote goes to the KAB EV-1, essentially a stripped-down and manual Nitty Gritty machine that you simply attach to your home Hoover (who needs an onboard vac motor to break down anyway?): [IMG]http://www.kabusa.com/gif/ev1-1.jpg[/IMG] It takes me only about 1 minute per side and is a real joy to use. Cost? A whopping 0 (£80)! :D (well, shipping to UK or Europe add another £20) For anyone spinnin' vinyl but not yet vacuum cleaning it, you cannot find a more cost effective upgrade! :p TNT Audio seems to agree [URL=http://www.tnt-audio.com/accessories/kabev1_e.html]KAB EV-1 Review[/URL] . They're not distributed over here (but you find Nitty Gritty machines starting at what, 500 quid? And they are no more effective :confused: ) The KAB can be ordered direct from the following link: [URL=http://www.kabusa.com/ev1.htm]KAB EV-1[/URL] Cheers, Dex