What do you believe in ?

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    granville

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    You only require butter on sole. Capers are so yesterday.:)
     
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    granville

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    I don't believe in ' God ' being a unique divine entity in itself, rather that, it is the sum of many enlightened souls. It has evolved as the soul and spirituality of man has evolved over time. It has in itself no divine powers, is unable to directly influence the outcome of catastrophic events or interfere in our mundane or otherwise lives. It has no axe to grind in how we live our lives, does not support any one religion over another. In fact the very practice of many religions will only make commune with this higher energy less achievable. The power and strength available if you wish to use it however is immense, for any race, color, sexual orientation, disability or any of the other names used to divide us.

    Homeopathy can indeed work, it works on children and animals, like most things it is not necessary to prove something works for it to work, you don't need to believe in it, for it to work, it can work even when the subject is unaware they have taken anything. However like many therapies you need to find the one that works for you.

    Dousing has been used for centuries by many cultures, only those who wish it to fail will fail to succeed. I can do it and I know of many others who can.

    Of the healing methods practiced world wide, but excluding the ones that involve large amounts of money and no empathy for the client, I believe they all tap into the same energy source. If you are a spiritual healer you may consider this to be the work of God. If you have a huge ego you may consider yourself to be special. I however believe that we use the universal energy that exists all around us, and when I practice healing with my paying clients I am acting much like a battery charger. Purely giving their body the energy required to heal itself. Yes distance healing can work also. Much as in any form of healing including western medicine it may not be effective on everyone, and when healing with energy the client has to want to get better, it does
    Not matter if they believe it will work or not, but that they have an open mind. It is very effective on children and animals for this reason.

    I have experienced Psychic phenomenon and therefore I believe, I don't know if I would otherwise.

    Prayer, when used for the benefit of others, people or animals, not when picking your six numbers on a Friday, is just another form of distance healing, although more diluted. It can and does have an effect.

    There must indeed be life after death, even excluding my own past life issues. When I held my new born son and looked at his face he stared intently into my eyes, not the blank stare of a puppy, but the intense cognitive gaze of an old soul, I admit I found this rather disturbing, however after helping my wife take a bath it had gone, replaced with the more usual confused and overwhelmed look. Some hold to the notion that at the moment of birth the knowledge and experiences of the re-born soul are forgotten.

    We do indeed have a soul; some however are damaged, feeding on negative energy. You all know one.

    I have seen a dog collapse into a feint on being taken into the dungeon of a castle, and upon being removed immediately recovering. No he was not scared of the dark or being underground, he had visited other castles and dungeons. It was according to the guide used for the torture and execution of many people. Have none of you experienced the powerful energy that exists within some churches and other buildings, usually ones where people gather to worship for the good of others. I doubt it exists when the only cause is the death and destruction of another race. This can still be felt when the building is empty and has been unused for many years.


    excuse any typos.
     
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    Bob McC living the life of Riley

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    What a load of bollocks. You're on the right forum here mate!
     
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    A well written and interesting post, Granville.
     
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    penance Arrogant Cock

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    I believ in pain.
     
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    Bob McC living the life of Riley

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    I told you were on the right forum.
     
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    You can take an interest in soemone elses point of view?!?

    I don't entirley agree with Granville...but would go soem way short of rubbishing his whole post....

    ...but .......horses for courses!





    :)
     
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    7_V I want a Linn - in a DB9

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    Three times in my life have I looked into another person's eyes and felt that soul-to-soul communication. I won't forget them.

    Good post, granville. Still, better keep a low profile around here - you're even crazier than I am.

    I'm interested to hear that you're a healer. In my braver moments, I apply that label to myself too. Healing brings out the best in me. Interested too that you don't use the word 'Reiki', which I think is a bit like the McDonalds of healing. So, how did you get into it and do you/did you have a teacher?

    Regards
    Steve
     
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    If I was a scientist involved in the advancement of the public's understanding of the sciences I would probably retire after reading that.

    Truly mindblowing stuff.
     
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    la toilette Downright stupid

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    Ha ha, you gotta laugh whatever you believe in, these threads are brilliant reading :D:
     
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    As Chesterton wrote: 'When people stop believing in God they do not believe in nothing; rather they believe in anything'.
     
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    lAmBoY Lothario and Libertine

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    Is there a God ? if yes then what is it.

    100% No. The belief in god has no basis in fact. There is zero proof that any god exists. Some people refer to a personal god. That is you talking to yourself. Believe in reality and not unicorns.

    Homeopathy, does it work or not ?
    100% No. Unless Oliver Cromwell's piss has healing properties. Placebo? Yes.

    Dousing ?
    100% No. Luck? Yes.

    Healing;
    Spiritual
    Reiki, and others
    Distance Healing

    100% No. Homeopathy should come under this list of garbage.


    Psychic phenomenon

    100% No. More chance of aliens:)


    The effect of Prayer, is there one ?

    100% No. Total garbage of the highest order;) I pray people will wake up and smell the coffee.

    Is there life after death
    100% No. Your chemical electrical spark stops flickering. Just like turning off a lightbulb. Dead is dead.

    Have we a soul
    100% No. We have a personality that ends in death and is remembered by the living.

    Can a building or place contain a perceivable energy, positive or negative
    100% No. Apply any perception you want to any given situation, but its the architect that gave you that sense of awe - not some immeasurable energy.
     
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    7_V I want a Linn - in a DB9

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    How can you possibly be 100% sure on each of these questions (or is it a 'footballer's 100%' where 150% represents maximum effort)?
     
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    Exactly...
     
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    I think it is interesting that the original question was "What do you believe in?", and add a line or two to explain; but those who believe in nothing have felt it necessary to presume to speak on behalf of everybody else!:(
    IAmBoy: 100% sure? In your own mind, OK. You have the right to express your opinion.
    A recent opinion poll on 'prayer' indicates that 40% of people in this country would disagree with you. bbc news website

    Is this lack of any spirituality the reason that you describe yourself as "Lothario and Libertine"? Perhaps your views will change when 'YouAreMan'?;)
     
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    lAmBoY Lothario and Libertine

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    I am 100% sure of my answers:)

    God does not exist.

    Spirituality is best left to the spirits. Make mine a whisky.

    Opinion polls are based on opinions. Praying helps people help themselves, nothing else. Why would you assume any type of god would listen?

    Soul? Only in music.

    Not believing in god doesn't mean you believe in nothing (despite what some theologians would have you believe). I believe god doesn't exist (in whatever flavour/religion). Religion however is a necessary construct of society. People need to belong to something - thats only natural!
     
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    lAmBoY Lothario and Libertine

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    Sorry, I dont understand 'YouAreMan' please enlighten this self confessed heathen.
     
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    Czechchris

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    It was a tongue-in-cheek reference to your screen name 'IAmBoy' becoming 'IAmMan'. No offence intended, as evidenced by the wink smiley.
     
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    So then 60% think prayer is bollocks.
     
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    :(
     
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