Another pointless Mana debate

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    wadia-miester Mighty Rearranger

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    James,
    For me on that day we came, the LP12 was far superior ( I know its changed since), for me the TT had a lot more Presence/texture and real sounding with bvetter solidity, the cds2 sounded like tin whistle by comparsion, so as you were using the 52 at the time, one could only conclude that the cds2 was the culprit
     
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    The Devil IHTFP

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    Bass has become deeper, clearer and louder at phase 11, so they are less 'lean' than when they were lower down.

    Mana is about sinking out cabinet colorations, and isolating the speakers from incoming vibrations.

    How did you get on with your Mana purchase Merlin?
     
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    analoguekid Planet Rush

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    Yeah James but your speakers would be too high for Robert Wadlow's desk, if you get anymore mana your gonna need marker lights on them as planes flying into glasgow soemtimes pass quite near your abode.

    BTW Cloreen on HFC forum has been asking for ya http://forum.hifichoice.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=12120
     
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    The Devil IHTFP

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    Hi Tony,

    No argument from me that the TT is/was better than the CDP. But if Mana 'bleaches the texture', and the TT, pre and ATCs were all on Mana... then, er, the TT should have sounded 'bleached', too.

    Anyway, we have all passed a lot of water since then.

    I think if you heard it now you would be gobsmacked.
     
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    joel Shaman of Signals

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    You've swapped floor bounce for ceiling bounce and now have the woofers at ear height.
    Seems like I'm back in this thread.
     
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    analoguekid Planet Rush

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    ROFLMAO :D:D:D:D:D:D
     
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    penance Arrogant Cock

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    he aint worth wasting mouse clicks on

    I can now sit happy in the knowledge that i have a far superior setup, with out the need to use piper alpha for support.All that, and i dont have to see the inane drivel/small member waving
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    The Devil IHTFP

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    You've swapped floor bounce for ceiling bounce and now have the woofers at ear height.

    The ceiling is 13 feet high, the top of the speakers are about 6 feet high, leaving a 7-foot gap between tweeter and ceiling. There is no ceiling effect in my room, that is why hi-fi systems sound very good in there, I've tried three different ones.
     
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    kermit still dreaming.......

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    Merlin said
    "Raising the to this height will give the correct spectral balance and reduce floor interaction. Raising them further will reduce floor interaction even further usually making them leaner than intended. It isn't rocket science."

    My thoughts exactly .

    James said
    "Bass has become deeper, clearer and louder at phase 11, so they are less 'lean' than when they were lower down."

    I wonder if this is due to the fact that your speakers are getting closer to the ceiling and are now being reinforced by the ceiling instead of the floor ?

    edited to add ,
    I seem to be a bit slow of the mark
    note to self - must learn to type with more than one finger .
     
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    analoguekid Planet Rush

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    Andy what happens when you use the ignore thing, does it show you that he's replied but censors what he wrote or what?
     
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    Perfectly feasible - after all moving even an inch or so in the vertical plane will affect a speaker's interaction with the relevent axial mode. Nowt to do with anything more though I suspect.
     
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    analoguekid Planet Rush

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    keep up sleepy head Joel already suggested this and twas answered by Bub.

    James you quote Merlin re Monitors in the air, and he states that they will sound leaner the higher you go, so how can yours now sound fuller if they are another foot in the air and you are not putting it down to ceiling interaction?

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    Merlin you suggest they sounded leaner higher up, James has moved his another foot and they are bassier, and I would say they are prolly equidistant from floor and ceiling, so what has made them do the opposite from what you describe?
     
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    penance Arrogant Cock

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    Paul,

    I see this -
    Im getting quite attached to it now, and it sure makes more legible sense than the other detritous i have seen from same origin.
     
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    The Devil IHTFP

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    You may suspect - but you are wrong. I've heard the Mana effect in enough different systems and rooms to know that you are wrong, btw.
     
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    analoguekid Planet Rush

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    Just to keep you informed Andy he hasn't answered your insults so far.
     
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    The Devil IHTFP

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    It's the Mana stands removing cabinet coloration, allowing you to hear the bass (and everything else) more clearly.
     
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    penance Arrogant Cock

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    LoL
    Not bothered mate.
    Insult not intended, more a small dig;)
    I will leave it at that.
     
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    The Devil IHTFP

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    Posting stuff in this thread about me hardly counts as 'ignoring' in my book.
     
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    analoguekid Planet Rush

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    He was replying to me though James as I asked a direct question.

    Your answer to height didn't really answer my question, first you agree with M then you contradict him. You quoted him and his answer to monitors being better but leaner higher up as if you agreed then contradicted him by saying that your sound is fuller and that moving them had nothing to do with it the mana did it all, what gives?
     
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    analoguekid Planet Rush

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    Zealot alert, I thought fox had finished his room, but it seems the builders have left some scaffolding behind :) also shows other lovely rooms spoiled by the blacksmiths offcasts.

    http://mana.server909.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=14


    Although this guy isn't really trying
    [​IMG]
     
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