Freezing CDs?

Rob,

Curious...when you perform your test do you play a continuous piece of music and make the switch or do you play a brief segment of music, switch and repeat the same passage?

regards,

dave
 
spica said:
a reminder... (Groundhog day again mr holt) that differences have been detected for decades though i doubt this a marriage you will 'ever' consummate :)
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Excellent news, so I take it you will be volunteering to visit and put that to the (blind) test.
 
blackdog said:
Rob,

Curious...when you perform your test do you play a continuous piece of music and make the switch or do you play a brief segment of music, switch and repeat the same passage?

regards,

dave
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It varies Dave as I usually go with the flow of the group. So it usually ends up with a mix of quick (instant in fact) A/B and longer sessions.

Remember that we are talking about the cheapest and most basic cable here, something most will throw in the bin.
Should be audible no matter how the test is performed, or so you'd think. Trouble is I've yet to find anyone able to hear any effect from such cable - when they cannot actually see it.
 
RobHolt said:
It varies Dave as I usually go with the flow of the group. So it usually ends up with a mix of quick (instant in fact) A/B and longer sessions.

Remember that we are talking about the cheapest and most basic cable here, something most will throw in the bin.
Should be audible no matter how the test is performed, or so you'd think. Trouble is I've yet to find anyone able to hear any effect from such cable - when they cannot actually see it.
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I have never actually conducted such a trial myself, but I did take part in a blind trial back in the '80's. I and everyone else their could easilytell the cables aprt when we knew which ones were being used. When the test was blind, none of us could tell them apart.

I stopped worrying about cables after that.

Chris

Prior to this, I had no particular opinion one way or the other, always using whatever interconnects I happened to have lying around.
 
RobHolt said:
It varies Dave as I usually go with the flow of the group. So it usually ends up with a mix of quick (instant in fact) A/B and longer sessions.

Remember that we are talking about the cheapest and most basic cable here, something most will throw in the bin.
Should be audible no matter how the test is performed, or so you'd think. Trouble is I've yet to find anyone able to hear any effect from such cable - when they cannot actually see it.
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I have never actually conducted such a trial myself, but I did take part in a blind trial back in the '80's. I and everyone else their could easilytell the cables aprt when we knew which ones were being used. When the test was blind, none of us could tell them apart.

I stopped worrying about cables after that.

Chris
 
Zanash, has anyone taken you up on your frozen / unfrozen CD offer yet? If not then I'm happy to give it a try and am happy to pay postage and pass them on to whoever when I'm done.

I must say up front that I lean rather heavily towards scepticism with stuff like this but if no-one else is prepared to give it a go then I'm quite willing to try to keep an open mind and see if I can hear any differences between the CD's.

I'm quite sure whether I find one way or the other will make not the slightest bit of difference to the ongoing debate, but that doesn't matter to me ;).
 
Mescalito said:
I have never actually conducted such a trial myself, but I did take part in a blind trial back in the '80's. I and everyone else their could easilytell the cables aprt when we knew which ones were being used. When the test was blind, none of us could tell them apart.

I stopped worrying about cables after that.

Chris

Prior to this, I had no particular opinion one way or the other, always using whatever interconnects I happened to have lying around.
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Chris, that mirrors my findings exactly.

Very important to remove visual clues IMO.
 
RobHolt said:
It varies Dave as I usually go with the flow of the group. So it usually ends up with a mix of quick (instant in fact) A/B and longer sessions.

Remember that we are talking about the cheapest and most basic cable here, something most will throw in the bin.
Should be audible no matter how the test is performed, or so you'd think. Trouble is I've yet to find anyone able to hear any effect from such cable - when they cannot actually see it.
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Thanks for the info, Rob.

I only mentioned it because of bad experiences letting a piece of music continue as the switch is made. Evidently, our brains fill in the gap or discontinuity resulting in everything sounding equally crappy.

regards,

dave
 
RobHolt said:
Your financial loss actually ;)

You live near a train station?
Pop down for a listen and bring whatever cables (or chilled items) you wish. I've done these things a good few times now and I'm sure that those who've met me will confirm that I don't bite :)
Free food, free booze and whatever music you care to choose, or bring. Casual listening, informal gathering and I promise no pressure.

Invite is open to all.
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Thanks for that Rob.

Just not the moment, for a variety of reasons.

fwiw I just slung a cd in the freezer for bit......no differences for me. Certainly not conclusive anyway.

I've just put another one in to stay in for a bit longer

I'm a bit full of cold (again) so I wouldn' t guarenteee my ears will pick up any thing just now anyway.





"Do you really need to carry out a completely pointless and futile action in order to know for certain that it's a complete waste of time? Checking for the sake of checking is bordering on OCD"




James....pointing out audio products you may feel are over-priced is one thing but I really don't think you have the right to criticise people for experimenting.
 
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DavidF said:
James....pointing out audio products you may feel are over-priced is one thing but I really don't think you have the right to criticise people for experimenting.
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Okey dokey. Next time I have an opinion I'll ask you in advance if I have the right to express it.
 
blackdog said:
Bub,

Thanks for the recommendation on Richard Thompson's "The Old Kit Bag". Nice one...and probably best served at room temp.

regards,

dave
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Glad you like it, Dave. The "hobby", if you can call it that, is about enjoying music, in my opinion. People who seemingly inhabit the outer shores of "Beltism" (freezing CDs, etc) are listening to their systems, not music, and bring the rest of us into disrepute with their idiotic and ill-considered ideas.

Regards,
 

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