Freezing CDs?

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    Dave Simpson Plywood King

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    Rob,

    Curious...when you perform your test do you play a continuous piece of music and make the switch or do you play a brief segment of music, switch and repeat the same passage?

    regards,

    dave
     
    Dave Simpson, Apr 23, 2009
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    RobHolt Moderator

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    Excellent news, so I take it you will be volunteering to visit and put that to the (blind) test.
     
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    RobHolt Moderator

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    It varies Dave as I usually go with the flow of the group. So it usually ends up with a mix of quick (instant in fact) A/B and longer sessions.

    Remember that we are talking about the cheapest and most basic cable here, something most will throw in the bin.
    Should be audible no matter how the test is performed, or so you'd think. Trouble is I've yet to find anyone able to hear any effect from such cable - when they cannot actually see it.
     
    RobHolt, Apr 23, 2009
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    I have never actually conducted such a trial myself, but I did take part in a blind trial back in the '80's. I and everyone else their could easilytell the cables aprt when we knew which ones were being used. When the test was blind, none of us could tell them apart.

    I stopped worrying about cables after that.

    Chris

    Prior to this, I had no particular opinion one way or the other, always using whatever interconnects I happened to have lying around.
     
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    Mescalito

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    I have never actually conducted such a trial myself, but I did take part in a blind trial back in the '80's. I and everyone else their could easilytell the cables aprt when we knew which ones were being used. When the test was blind, none of us could tell them apart.

    I stopped worrying about cables after that.

    Chris
     
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    la toilette Downright stupid

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    Zanash, has anyone taken you up on your frozen / unfrozen CD offer yet? If not then I'm happy to give it a try and am happy to pay postage and pass them on to whoever when I'm done.

    I must say up front that I lean rather heavily towards scepticism with stuff like this but if no-one else is prepared to give it a go then I'm quite willing to try to keep an open mind and see if I can hear any differences between the CD's.

    I'm quite sure whether I find one way or the other will make not the slightest bit of difference to the ongoing debate, but that doesn't matter to me ;).
     
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    RobHolt Moderator

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    Chris, that mirrors my findings exactly.

    Very important to remove visual clues IMO.
     
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    Dave Simpson Plywood King

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    Thanks for the info, Rob.

    I only mentioned it because of bad experiences letting a piece of music continue as the switch is made. Evidently, our brains fill in the gap or discontinuity resulting in everything sounding equally crappy.

    regards,

    dave
     
    Dave Simpson, Apr 24, 2009
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    How very perceptive of you!!


    :D :D




    .....good.
     
    DavidF, Apr 24, 2009
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    DavidF

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    Thanks for that Rob.

    Just not the moment, for a variety of reasons.

    fwiw I just slung a cd in the freezer for bit......no differences for me. Certainly not conclusive anyway.

    I've just put another one in to stay in for a bit longer

    I'm a bit full of cold (again) so I wouldn' t guarenteee my ears will pick up any thing just now anyway.





    "Do you really need to carry out a completely pointless and futile action in order to know for certain that it's a complete waste of time? Checking for the sake of checking is bordering on OCD"




    James....pointing out audio products you may feel are over-priced is one thing but I really don't think you have the right to criticise people for experimenting.
     
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    RobHolt Moderator

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    No probs David, something for the future though if you wish.

    Hope the cold clears up quickly.
     
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    Me to.......thankyou!


    :D
     
    DavidF, Apr 24, 2009
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    Okey dokey. Next time I have an opinion I'll ask you in advance if I have the right to express it.
     
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    Dave Simpson Plywood King

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    Bub,

    Thanks for the recommendation on Richard Thompson's "The Old Kit Bag". Nice one...and probably best served at room temp.

    regards,

    dave
     
    Dave Simpson, Apr 26, 2009
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    No, you don't need to do that.

    Just let people enjoy their hobby(?) ;)
     
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    The Devil IHTFP

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    Glad you like it, Dave. The "hobby", if you can call it that, is about enjoying music, in my opinion. People who seemingly inhabit the outer shores of "Beltism" (freezing CDs, etc) are listening to their systems, not music, and bring the rest of us into disrepute with their idiotic and ill-considered ideas.

    Regards,
     
    The Devil, Apr 26, 2009
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    Why not educate them then? :p

    Won't they enjoy it even more? :D
     
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    tuga

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    They'll save money...
     
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    ...but experimenting doesn't cost anything.....!




    :confused:
     
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    tuga

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    Not in this case, but when you jump into the cable and resonator family bandwagon...
     
    tuga, Apr 26, 2009
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