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merlin said:
You twist things Antonio, although you might like to know that the drive units employed in the new Proacs were designed by Proac and are manufactured by Volt to Proac's tolerances.

The cheap stuff you get on the Rels can be picked up for a few quid from Solen and the like, ideed you can build your own Strata for about £100 including amp! :D
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Merlin look at all the money you are loosing waisting your time speaking rubish here, instead of building and selling Strata clones... :ffrc: :ffrc: :ffrc: :NADowner:
 
lowrider said:
Merlin look at all the money you are loosing waisting your time speaking rubish here, instead of building and selling Strata clonesQUOTE]

I couldn't live with myself if I foisted more of those onto the gullible European public Antonio - in business I have morals!

I couldn't really retail my babies, I've worked out they'd retail for about £5K per unit, and would not represent great value at that price.

But back to you Antonio. Why do you keep shifting the focus of your attacks? Could it be that you are simply out of your depth old chap?

By the way, unlike you, I read what the experts have to say, dont waist my time trying to re-invent hifi...
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No you don't Antonio, otherwise trhere's no way you'd have ended up saddled with an AV system ;)
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merlin said:
No you don't Antonio, otherwise trhere's no way you'd have ended up saddled with an AV system ;)
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Merlin, I understand your frustration, it would take a miracle to make an AV system work properly in a 7 feet wide room... :JPS:
 
Bub, 'Tis true. In Southern-Softie-Land there are alternatives to Briks piled high on Mana.

So as to piss off others by way of a change, I have to say that the Rel Strata I found rather slow and not very musical. It was bettered by the MJ Ref 1 at less money. If you want subs to work properly in 2 channel land I think you need to spend serious money or build your own, especially if your main speakers are any good.
 
At least if you got a couple of ATC active subs I wouldn't have to travel all the way to Glasgow to hear your system.
 
Alex S said:
So as to piss off others by way of a change, I have to say that the Rel Strata I found rather slow and not very musical. It was bettered by the MJ Ref 1 at less money. If you want subs to work properly in 2 channel land I think you need to spend serious money or build your own, especially if your main speakers are any good.
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Here we go again, "slow subs and not very musical"... :ffrc: :ffrc: :ffrc: :NADowner:
 
I'd agree Alex,

I think the slowness of the Strata is almost certainly the result of it's disappointingly high distortion figures.

But to be fair, many people who probably set their goals somewhat lower than maybe you or I do, seem to be reasonably happy with them.
 
merlin said:
But to be fair, many people who probably set their goals somewhat lower than maybe you or I do, seem to be reasonably happy with them.
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Merlin your desire to mischief-make is insatiable :eek:
 
:rds2:

I thought I saw real blood. Maybe it is just my imagination. Is this the record for the longest threat yet?
 
wolfgang,
subjectively this is the longest thread (boy is it ever). objectively i'm not sure so i'll say it is even though i've no real proof or data to back up my position.
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Should the longest be the number of replies, or the longest running time, what about the actual substances, ... the most that have Naim or Mama mentioned..

the contain one that has the most useful information thread or the one that generate most heart attacks....there is so many parameters.
 
As anyone with a brain can see, (oh God, please let me see the light too :newbie: ), a 15" woofer at 200hz, or is it 500hz :confused:, is faster and more musical than a 10" at 60hz... :chunder:
 
no it's the longest. i've seen papers written by respected scientists researching threads say that THIS is the longest ever, in the history of the entire world ever. also i personally have done repeated db, st and ol testing that prove conclusively beyond a shadow of a doubt that this is the longest thread. of couse if exactly the same thread was over on the hfc forum it wouldn;t be as long or as good due to subtle differences that are far too complicated and subtle to be measured.
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julian
 
After signing all my replies carefully ....As the greatest grand scientist of all nothing is ever too subtle to be measured. Here is it again.
 
lowrider said:
As anyone with a brain can see, (oh God, please let me see the light too :newbie: ), a 15" woofer at 200hz, or is it 500hz :confused:, is faster and more musical than a 10" at 60hz... :chunder:
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It is unlikely Antonio that anyone with a brain would have posted the above, but I guess you are the exception ;)

Question,

Why is it that the majority of loudspeakers use 6 1/2 " cones to cover the lower octaves? Is it a) because they sound better or b) because they are more domestically acceptable to the average fashion victim?

Oh and BTW, it's not the size that gives the perception of slowness - it's the horrible levels of distortion ;)Those Thumbelina 11's aren't fast just because there's a twee "conette" performing bass duties!
 
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merlin said:
It is unlikely Antonio that anyone with a brain would have posted the above, but I guess you are the exception ;)

Question,

Why is it that the majority of loudspeakers use 6 1/2 " cones to cover the lower octaves? Is it a) because they sound better or b) because they are more domestically acceptable to the average fashion victim?
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Not if that one is Merlin the magician, piece of cake to make a 15" woofer disapear... :p

Answer,

Because they sound better in the midrange and there are subwoofers available at reasonable cost to play the lowest octaves without looking like refrigerators... :MILD:
 
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