The Cable Test - listen and decide

Oh but it is David.

I dislike seeing people taken for a ride.

Perhaps you should have taken part then David?
It isn't proof - it is additional information out there for people to consider and hopefully assist any decision.
Shorter files were posted so you could have been listening in a few minutes. Ho hum.

 

As in my foot note, Rob (bottom line).

Ho hum, indeed.

When others can work 12 hours shifts through the night, packing 40+ pallets of dairy products, then do better than me, I shall consider it. (edit; thanks for making the effort though!)

Actually I'm lieing, I've listened to enough cables already to know my stance on the subject. I might also say I've had a lot of fun doing it!

So, like I say please don't try to spoil other peoples' fun!

Its their money at the end of the day, not yours!

 

Why are you sidestepping the ADC ? It's a really simple question and it is quite relevant.

also , what has being able to tell the difference in a mat have to do with anything ? cables and mats are not alike in the world I live on

[edit: lets get this right , you're using a behringer piece of shite ADC and that's supposed to prove something , hang on while i laugh some more]

 

David, I can assure you that most people don't see being persuaded that spending a fortune on wire as 'fun'.

Now, you've spent far more time on here today posting than it would take to listen to four short audio clips

How about I send you a CD containing the clips, with the track lengths slightly edited to maintain the blind aspect?
You must be able to find 15 minutes.......

 

Sidestepping? - it is listed on page one (for the third time....)
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I think you need to read the thread as you seen to have dived in at the end.

You are arguing that the ADC is perhaps masking differences.
I'm explaining to you that it clearly doesn't mask something as subtle as swapping one felt mat for another. If capable of revealing that difference, a pretty subtle one, it should be able to reveal the difference between £150 worth of Chord cable and some bits of brass and sweet wrapper.
The counter argument is that the ADC is applying some sort of intelligent masking. So explain it.

 

Man, your clutching at straws here.....

No one had to "pursuade" me, as you put it!

Ovr two crappy gateway speakers is hardly reperesentative test.

Down load to a cd?

thats never gone acording to plan whenever I've done it in the past.

If I had done it, it proved neg, it would just have highlighted diferences inthe recording, as know my experineces from the past.

You can, thanks, but i'm afriad stuff doesn't always get returned (ask pete!!!) so i try not to borrow of anyone now.

Besides, like I say I have my own previous experiences.

 

Chicken

First time you've mentioned gateway speakers. You simply said you didn't have time.

I wasn't offering a loan - you can keep it.

Tell you what, how about I loan you a nice dac so that you can listen through your regular hi-fi?

 

Sarcasm and snidey remarks don't befit you Rob, you too nice a guy for that.

I'll pm my address now, you pm me yours but I don't hold out nay guarentees you'll see them again.

I'll do my best though.


(BTW you can send the dac by all means, same rules apply though!)


address coming now

 

Look , your behringer is masking everything. You might as well be recording on a wax cylinder and then claiming cables make no difference.


I haven't gone into the whys and wherefores of how you've done this Rob.

Please be sure before you start moving stuff al la our royal mail.

 

I'm happy to use registered post and pay both ends.
Very little possibility of loss.

 

see it from my perspective on what is more believable :-

All cables sound the same because a junk ADC with mods doesn't show any difference

or

A junk ADC with mods can't show the differences between cables

let me think, hmmmm ?

 

Rob, its not the money and frankly I'm not terribly happy at that inference.


M y job leaves me absolutely exhausted.

 

Don't think too long.

The 'junk' ADC (which you clearly haven't heard) was judged to be comparable in quality to a Lavry when compared blind earlier this year. The five listeners could have been deaf I suppose.

The offer stands for you or anyone else to do this live.
I can offer you five amplifiers, five pairs of speakers including stats and horns. No ADC needed, though we can put it on loop if you wish and you can A/B the effect?
I'll put my money where my mouth is, how about you?

 

No slight intended David, I'm simply responding to your suggestion that I might not get the DAC back!

I'll not pressure you, if you are exhausted then fair enough.
Perhaps when you get some free time we can revisit.

 

or you could have been using crap cables

What, meet up with strangers from the interweb and spend a day swapping IC cables in a hifi? I know it sounds like a wonderful experience, maybe even a dream come true but I think I'll have to pass. Thanks for the offer anyway.

As I've posted earlier , I'm not too fussed about the outcome from cables being different as I don't spend too much on them.
I do have a few cables though and I can hear differences between (some) of them.
I know whatever I say about differences in cables , you won't believe - just like I won't believe you claiming to have a DEQ that resembles anything Hi Fi.

Let's just leave it at that , thanks for the amusement though

 

ok

I assumed the dac was meant in jest....?!

Interesting as it would be to try it, the idea is best left, but thanks.

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You said you were going to send the cds would not be upset if there might be a delay in their return?!

Entirely up to you, now.

You shoiuld ahve my address.

 

Astonishing comment about something you've never heard.
Lot of that about though in audio land.

 

I really would send you a dac, it wasn't a joke.
I though perhaps that you were analogue only for a moment there

The CD offer is not a loan - you really can keep it!
I'll burn you the files during the week and post them.