Windbag is worse threat than Terrorists..

What he said.

 

When I did A level Economics back in the mists of time, I thought 'This suplly/demand stuff is all so blindingly obvious'. Little did I realise that some grown men are unable to grasp the simple truths that raising the price of something will decrease the demand for it, and that an item in very short supply for which there is a high demand will command a very high price.

 

that is soo true...luckily it's not too bad where I live, but I went the cinema ages ago (up at newcastle) and it was full of charvas chucking pop corn etc around...

 

Raising the price is one way to go. Increasing income tax is another, the effect would be less expendable income. I do feel though it will be the wifes and children of these idiots who will take the financial burden.

I would also like to say these drunks come from all types of back ground not just the lower class. though not stated in this thread IMO anyone who comes from a background of privalige who acts like that should be made to help out at homeless centres from 11pm to 9am when the drunks are being sick and wetting the beds, then they can clean it all up.

 

ya agree drunks come from all backgrounds, but I repeat the punishments for anyone caught creating trouble when drunk, on the spot fines need to be tougher, and again the establishment where they got their poison should take some of the punishment too.

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4581530.stm

'Appen I was right. Just fancy that.

 

My dad reckoned he saw something today, that suggested the amount of cases of cirrohsis (sp?) was something like 14 (or was that 114 I cant quite remember) in 100,000 of the population, as while it represented an increase, its hardly the epidemic people make it out to be...

 

When you know something, post about it, when you don't, say nothing.

 

Well said that man!

 

Well I dont have the stats at hand for today, but in 1997, according to this, the rate was 6 per 100,000. That is 0.006% of the population. Hardly the epidemic its made out to be.

http://archives.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/europe/12/11/binge.drinking/?related

And of those that will almost certainly be PROPER alcoholics - i.e. the ones that drink 20 pints a day (or whatever). That is 3,600 people out of 60 million!

Big deal!

I bet more people die getting out of bed every year!

 

I refer you back to my previous post, Mr Birkett.

 

Lets ban smoking first.

 

Its also worth noting these are figures for just one result of alcohol consumption, there are many other problems caused by alcohol not covered in these stats, many of them are social rather than physical.

 

It's also worth noting that these are annual death rates. For every death, there are numerous other patients with significant liver, and other, disorders.

 

It is also worth saying that 1/2 the cirrhosis is caused by Hep C - or is this incorrect??

 

Yes, that's incorrect.

 

Has anyone stopped to think that we non-smokers are being subsidized to a large extent by the enormous taxes paid by smokers? Now that they're no longer allowed to blow smoke in our faces they've become a significant force for the good.

Ban smokers? We should encourage them.

Cheers
Steve

 

..interestingly though, this info came from a Doc on a BBC site linked from the one you gave as your evidence:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4121011.stm

 

Where does it say that 50% of cirrhosis in the UK is caused by Hepatitis C? [If it does say that, it's wrong, btw.]

 

It doesn't as I read it now. It says that 1/2 the cirrhosis is caused by alcohol - which is a different, though also interesting statement.

What is the rest from? Presumably being sat on by fat French farmers force-feeding us corn mash for pate production

It is not something I am trying to argue, since I am not a medic. I am just keen to learn.