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God how many times do I have to fucking well explain this!

CABLES THAT MEASURE THE SAME SOUND THE SAME. CABLES THAT MEASURE DIFFERENTLY MIGHT HAVE AUDIBLE DIFFERENCES. IF YOU THINK THAT'S INCORRECT, PROVE IT

Is that so difficult to understand?

As for how I make my money that's really up to me. I buy and sell whatever I can make a profit on. That's why I currently have a healthy bank balance. What's the problem? Do I sell on ZG? Do I make wild claims based on fantasy? Do I PM you asking if I can help you get some cable? No? then stop wasting my time.

Keith, you accuse me of hypocrasy for stating the above then using an impedence matched cable that measures very differently from the majority of cables in my active system. And you don't answer questions. If you are trying to make a point, you aren't doing it very well.
 
Baudrillard said:
Mike, Hi.

Strange, you feel the need to make money selling what many would consider to be an unnecessarily expensive and exotic cable, Isolda, as you do not appear to be that poor.

Even though you claim to make a healthy profit on it, I find it rather baffling that you would even touch, let alone use such an expensive cable yourself, bearing in mind your entrenched position on ZG.




Surely, as a matter of principle, wouldn't it be more appropriate to use something cheaper, which measures similarly? You'd make even MORE profit selling the Isolda unused, I'd presume.

Why use it when you firmly believe that that the sale and use of expensive cables is a joke and scam, on the level of divining rods?
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I am specifically keeping out of the main thrust of this thread, but find it amusing that you want to whinge about someone selling a product for a profit.
What is wrong with offering a product for sale?
If people wish to purchase the product and are happy with the transaction then what is wrong?
 
Also Mike hasn't said that all cables sound the same, even though some of you appear to be reading it as that. I find it both amusing and disturbing to see a number of people here clearly on a wind up.
 
Stereo Mic said:
God how many times do I have to fucking well explain this!

CABLES THAT MEASURE THE SAME SOUND THE SAME. CABLES THAT MEASURE DIFFERENTLY MIGHT HAVE AUDIBLE DIFFERENCES. IF YOU THINK THAT'S INCORRECT, PROVE IT

Is that so difficult to understand?
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Whos on a wind up... :confused:
 
Mike is saying ( correct me if I am wrong ) that a cheap cable with the same LCR characteristics as the Townsend will sound the same as the more expensive, Townsend cable, despite that he is more than happy to sell his 'trade' Townesend cable to any mug that comes along, I can't see how that is behaving any differently to the snake oil salesmen he is railing against. If nothing else it smacks of hypocrisy.
 
Stereo Mic said:
God how many times do I have to fucking well explain this!

CABLES THAT MEASURE THE SAME SOUND THE SAME. CABLES THAT MEASURE DIFFERENTLY MIGHT HAVE AUDIBLE DIFFERENCES. IF YOU THINK THAT'S INCORRECT, PROVE IT

Is that so difficult to understand?
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melorib said:
Whos on a wind up... :confused:
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Apart from the cursing what's wrong with that statement? That has been S&M's stance from the start.
 
coops said:
Mike is saying ( correct me if I am wrong ) that a cheap cable with the same LCR characteristics as the Townsend will sound the same as the more expensive, Townsend cable, despite that he is more than happy to sell his 'trade' Townesend cable to any mug that comes along, I can't see how that is behaving any differently to the snake oil salesmen he is railing against. If nothing else it smacks of hypocrisy.
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Oh how utterly pathetic.

Find me a commercially available impedence matched 8 ohm cable.
 
S&M? What dark secrets our members have:D
Mike, have you noticed, assuming it's a straight forward and quick thing to try, any changes if you double the length of your cable-curious to see what happens is all?
What I'm searching for is any paterns emerging with a cable you know well by making changes that you can easily calc the numbers on?
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cooky1257 said:
S&M? What dark secrets our members have:D
Mike, have you noticed, assuming it's a straight forward and quick thing to try, any changes if you double the length of your cable-curious to see what happens is all?
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No difference at all, in fact I use one 4m length and one 7m length.

There's no way Isolda is worth the money - as many former users on here will happily testify. It is different though. Just like Goetz, Electrofuidics and others, if you remove the LC network, it's basically a very low inductance, high capacitance cable. One would expect audible differences. Improvements? Very much a different matter.
 
Stereo Mic said:
No difference at all, in fact I use one 4m length and one 7m length.

There's no way Isolda is worth the money - as many former users on here will happily testify. It is different though. Just like Goetz, Electrofuidics and others, if you remove the LC network, it's basically a very low inductance, high capacitance cable. One would expect audible differences. Improvements? Very much a different matter.
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Thanks.
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Is mine cryongenically treated too? Great stuff! Anyone done blind tests of before and after?
 
For the record, I don't care how a cable measures (or any of my hifi for that matter); all I care about is how it sounds to me.

Ian
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But you really are not allowed to say that on here, because you will be accused of being unscientific, sworn at, called names and generally ridiculed.

Another thread bites the dust. This is really tiresome.

Another newcomer driven away. Bye
 
Czechchris said:
But you really are not allowed to say that on here, because you will be accused of being unscientific, sworn at, called names and generally ridiculed.
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Ah. No you will be told there is no evidence to suggest your findings have any relevence outside of your system context, and that it's perfectly probable that you would hear very differently under controlled conditions.

It's usually then that YOU will swear at me, call me names, and try to ridicule me. Sad. Then I'll get another PM from a sensibe forumite who gives up with the lunacy of certain mystic people on ZG and says farewell.

The burden of proof must lie with you. Sadly, if you look through all of the recent threads, you will see where the name calling begins. Once again, it may well confound your commonly held beliefs.
 
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