Originally posted by TonyL
I'm incredibly sceptical of any kind of sales pitch. I do however consider myself open minded enough to try new things, and the dem in Cheadle only convinced me that I needed to try the QS Ref quietly on my own at home, which is exactly what I did.
Tony, I'm also very sceptical of any kind of sales pitch - after all, I use them myself every day in business. I find Cestrians particularly gullible
However, let me put it this way: a sales pitch is much harder to spot if the person giving it is someone you regard as a friend. 'Advice' comes in many disguises. See my point?
This may make me sound a bit arrogant (which is not the intention), but the only person's experience I will put any money on is my own.
I don't consider that arrogant, only sensible.
I will happily listen to anything and am eager to learn, but I will then form my own opinion ââ'¬â€œ I've been farting about with audio for 25 years now, I learnt to ignore the snake oil decades ago.
Snap! We have much in common in this regard. One should always be willing to learn new ideas and concepts from others and use the relevant information gained for ones benefit; that's what I've done in the past, and it is what I'll continually do in the future; with hi-fi and many other things.
With regards to the Cheadle crowd: I am good friends with them and very much enjoy going across for a pint and a curry now and again, but I don't share all their views as my own system will clearly testify (they do not stock any audio component that I use with the exception of the QS Ref and mains block).
I also used to mix with some of the Cheadle crowd, and enjoyed a few pleasant evenings drinking beer and munching curries in Rusholme (and around the outskirts). Dave C can fairly put it away, eh? LOL! Did your lot ever go to the Third Eye in Didsbury? What a superb place! They serve Nepalese cuisine, which is a bit different to the usual Balti curries served in Rusholme. Or how about the authentic Greek/Cypriot restaurant with the big long tables? Can't remember the name of it. These were some of the usual haunts when I was there, but after going over to the dark side, so to speak, I now feel it somewhat unsuitable for me to attend
I think the loyalty of Larry's customers surprised everyone, especially Naim and The Audio Counsel!
Yes, Larry is a first class salesman (of the highest rank)!
I know many of them and they are genuinely delighted with the Accuphase stuff ââ'¬â€œ Dave C's system as an example sounds truly excellent (it would sound even better with a record deck though

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Never heard Dave's system, but I'm sure it sounds excellent. Tony, even if it didn't, he still deserves kudos for his dedication to the cause. Anyone who rips up carpets to replace ferrous gripper rods with aluminium ones has nothing but my greatest admiration
Respect!
Marco.