3DSonics
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Hi,
The actual numbers are guesstimates, HOWEVER, as I spend quite some time in pro audio and have good grasp of the sales figures for studio monitors by JBL, EV, Westlake, Mackie, Meyer, Dynaudio, KRK et al for the last 10 - 20 Years vs. those of ATC these figures should be within reasonable tolerance.
BUT YOU DO NOT KNOW.
The lists of "references" for most of those companies mentioned are much longer than ATC's.
The same can be said about many other Speakers, as can be the fact that they are endoresed by al sorts of Musicians and/or Sound people. All of which merely prooves that ATC is ONE PLAYER and not a particular big one at that in a wide market, to which Sturgons law applies as fully as it does to other items.
You might gain from not ignoring it.
You have repeated claims by ATC that one would call "extraordinary", unless they are understood strictly as marketing hyperbole with little relation to reality.
As you take exception to have these claims dismissed as "spin" the burden of proof rests with you. And remember, extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. And writing "David Gilmore use them" has zero value as proof for the accuracy of statements of:
1) General respect and/or level of "reverence" of the majority of sound professionals and musicians for ATC Speakers.
2) The actual quality of ATC Speakers in any particular respect.
3) The actual degree of accuracy in terms of sound reproduction fo ATC Speakers.
So, if you wish to continue to make extraordinary claims unchallenged by those who feel they have proof that the claims are inaccurate, you MUST provide proof, that is factual and reasonable incontrovertable.
Untill then the fact remains that the opinions you have expressed are subject to substantiative challenge, especially in the light of actual facts available in the public domain on the subject.
If you have FACTS (not spin, hyperbole, opinion or conjecture) that contradict my position, namely that many speakers exist that in the traditional sense of word provide a greater degree of accuracy than ATC speakers (by virtue of flatter frequency response and lower distortion) I will be happy to see them placed in the public domain.
As you have consitently failed to do you must forgive for dismissing your writings as ravings from the fringe which remain in direct and patently obvious opposition to reality.
Ciao T
The Devil said:
The actual numbers are guesstimates, HOWEVER, as I spend quite some time in pro audio and have good grasp of the sales figures for studio monitors by JBL, EV, Westlake, Mackie, Meyer, Dynaudio, KRK et al for the last 10 - 20 Years vs. those of ATC these figures should be within reasonable tolerance.
The Devil said:
BUT YOU DO NOT KNOW.
The lists of "references" for most of those companies mentioned are much longer than ATC's.
The Devil said:
The same can be said about many other Speakers, as can be the fact that they are endoresed by al sorts of Musicians and/or Sound people. All of which merely prooves that ATC is ONE PLAYER and not a particular big one at that in a wide market, to which Sturgons law applies as fully as it does to other items.
The Devil said:
You might gain from not ignoring it.
You have repeated claims by ATC that one would call "extraordinary", unless they are understood strictly as marketing hyperbole with little relation to reality.
As you take exception to have these claims dismissed as "spin" the burden of proof rests with you. And remember, extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. And writing "David Gilmore use them" has zero value as proof for the accuracy of statements of:
1) General respect and/or level of "reverence" of the majority of sound professionals and musicians for ATC Speakers.
2) The actual quality of ATC Speakers in any particular respect.
3) The actual degree of accuracy in terms of sound reproduction fo ATC Speakers.
So, if you wish to continue to make extraordinary claims unchallenged by those who feel they have proof that the claims are inaccurate, you MUST provide proof, that is factual and reasonable incontrovertable.
Untill then the fact remains that the opinions you have expressed are subject to substantiative challenge, especially in the light of actual facts available in the public domain on the subject.
If you have FACTS (not spin, hyperbole, opinion or conjecture) that contradict my position, namely that many speakers exist that in the traditional sense of word provide a greater degree of accuracy than ATC speakers (by virtue of flatter frequency response and lower distortion) I will be happy to see them placed in the public domain.
As you have consitently failed to do you must forgive for dismissing your writings as ravings from the fringe which remain in direct and patently obvious opposition to reality.
Ciao T
