Bake off in sunny Ilford anyone?

brizonbiovizier said:
More system dependent than an active. I understand high source impedance is detrimental. Thorsten could say more I am sure.

Nick, is this Thorsten bloke behind the Django?

Rob.
 
SCIDB said:
As for my Django. I have to apologise to everyone. I have never seem so many faces drop with disappointment. I wish a hole had opened up and swallowed me. When the Nad came out my worst fears were realised. The shame of it all.

My title as 'Hifi guru for the people' is now sadly over. I don't know if I'll ever show my face around hifi events ever again.

SCIDB


I hope (in fact am sure!) that you are kidding mate. Taste being subjective and systems being different and all that.

Besides, you can definately retain ''music guru'' which has ''hifi guru'' beat as a title by , oh, a million to one :D
 
The telling test would be for scidb to compare nad v django in his own system and see if he finds the same outcome...

I think Thorsten is a lot to do with TVCs in general. I dont know the specifics if any exist that relate him to the django.
 
Enough already.....

WE GOTCHA NICK !

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Hey, no need to wake Thorsten - we were just pulling ya plonker :)

The Django performed really well sounding bigger with better dynamics than the Glasshouse.

There was no Nad 3020.

Star of the day was definitely Ian's Leak Stereo 20 which proved an excellent match for the Tannoys. Dev looked quite upset when Ian took it away so the search is on to find another sample.

Rob.
 
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Yep, Django->Leak->Tannoys won, but Dev's Rogue worked very well with the Django too. The Glasshouse sounded a bit recessed and uninteresting in comparison, an illustration of the oft-repeated claim that passive preamps can rob a system of dynamics, an impedance problem no doubt. I think the Glasshouse into the Leak would have worked better than the Glasshouse into the Rogue, as my experience with Leaks is that they work very well with traditional passives. But that was one combo we didn't try.

Sorry to take the Leak away from you Dev, but needs must. It's plugged into the Jordans now and sounding good.

-- Ian
 
Of course you did Nick.

Anyway, I thought the Leak really showed the way forward and I felt that the Django's strengths lay in different areas to the Tannoys.

I'd have loved to have included a really decent active tube device. My feeling was that a good tube pre would have given some of the leak's qualities to the system whilst allowing Dev to enjoy the headroom provided by the Rogue.
 
Hi Rob,

As Rob has said, a bit of high jinx at the expense of Nick (BBV).

Yes there was no NAD 3020.

My Django is the Steven and Billington transformer version with silver phono sockets. In Dev's system, it gave better dynamics and life than the Glasshouse passive. It suited his system better. The passive pre sounded like there was something missing.

It's interesting to see the opinions of the transformer pre from Lee. It didn't sound slow at all. There was no lack of pace. With Rob's Naim cd player there was pace aplenty.

I understand Dev is going to be making one of these type of pres for his system.

Ian's Leak amp was quality sounding. It goes very well with the Tannoy speakers. The Leak has a very sensitive input (0.125V) so a tranditional passive would work better with that. The Rogue is less sensitive (1V)

SCIDB
 
No the nad in the attic was a step too far - you had me until then.

Interesting about the passive pre though.
 
Interestingly I used a Nad 3020 with my AML1's for a while until my Ming Da arrived from China. HORRID as a pre-amp. I wonder how it would do if it was serviced though…
 
wow, you guys completely fooled me!

I really didn't get on with the transformer based passive in my system at all.. so thought that this was similar to my own experiences!

It just goes to show how system/person dependant results can be.
 
Oooh very nice! How do you find the treble? Considered adding the new JXR6 as a tweeter? With the broad range both drivers work, a textbook crossover may even work well.
 
bottleneck said:
wow, you guys completely fooled me!

I really didn't get on with the transformer based passive in my system at all.. so thought that this was similar to my own experiences!

It just goes to show how system/person dependant results can be.

Yes, people who lie get very different results :p
 

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