Freezing CDs?

It's right at the bottom of my list of things on which to waste £1.50. Rip the "deep freezered" CD before and after being in the deep freeze for an arbitrary time period, and compare the files. That's the real challenge.

Do the freezer enthusiasts believe in horoscopes?

 

That is complete nonsense Pete, as well you know.
I haven't 'suddenly' arrived at any conclusions - I've actually tried most of this stuff over many years and formed views accordingly along the way.

Your comments re wire hold no water I'm afraid.
For starters, iron wire behaves quite differently to copper and is in no way suitable for use in audio systems.
Even if it were - it's cheap, as is copper, or silver plated copper. Even solid silver in the quantities used for interconnects isn't much more expensive, certainly relative to the cost of many silver cables.

A challenge for you:
Supply a meter length of your finest cable and I'll put that up against the most basic, 99p phono interconnect. The cables will be inserted into the (passive) tape loop of a WD valve amp and played into a choice of Harbeth or Quad ESL speakers.
Two volunteers needed, simply to detect any difference under blind testing - no matter how small - with any degree of repeatability. I care not what cable you supply, platinum, gold, silver (not iron), entirely up to you.

 

Agreed.

I suspect you are probably right.

 

Is that what you use then, Rob?

99p phono inteconnects?

 

£1.29pm Klotz guitar cable actually.

Feel free to argue over 30p

 

In my view, the subject of "taste" in Audio can (roughly) be compared to the seasoning of a dish. If you use quality ingredients and cook properly you get good results and then herbs and spices can be added to taste without affecting the overall quality. For this you need the right recipe.

No matter how you season a Pizza Hut pizza, you will never get good result.
However, if you don't know what to expect from a pizza then a Pizza Hut pizza might very well be your nec plus ultra...

As far as music goes, for evaluating systems there's the adequate and inadequate kind and this is independent of taste. The same goes for recording techniques. In my view. :MILD:

 

Your loss....!

 

I very much doubt the data on the CD can change. The data is binary, what could happen is the way the data is stored has changed and is therefore having an effect on the playback system. The change must lie with the laser based playback and must therefore affect all laser based systems for it to be audible on all systems. The carrier is metallic and therefore will clearly be affected by extreme cold. Not so the actual data.​

 

Tuga; good points, well made. I understand where you're coming from. If someone has a hankering for Pizza Hut then all power to them I say. Who is anyone else to tell them their Pizza's no good.

Now please excuse me, I'm feeling oddly peckish...

 

Your first sentence is correct, and that's my point. The rest is nonsense.

The "change" lies entirely within the fevered imagination of the shamen, or high priest.

My "agenda", for the record, is that of "The Resistance of the Rational", as Christopher Hitchens put it, in a certain book.

 

Please do. It's a matter of taste. Some people like to listen to opera on a tabletop radio...just don't tell ME it's good.

Anyway, taste can be educated.

 

What I quoted is very possible and is no more nonsense than that which dribbles constantly out of your mouth. If you have tried all of these possible tweaks and come to a conclusion then you are fully qualified to comment but somehow I suggest that you are just a tosser with a serious inferiority complex.​

 

"The placebo effect is an Audio phenomenon where the results of a change in a system are affected by the audiophile's ideas about how effective the change is. The term is especially used when a audiophile responds dramatically to an insignificant change. Insignificant changes used to induce the placebo effect are called placebos; power cables and room resonators are typical examples.

The placebo effect is a pervasive phenomenon in Audio and placebos are widely used in contemporary marketing. The placebo effect sheds light on the brain's role in Audio, and allows the industry to take advantage of the audiophile's faithfulness in reviewers to their advantage. The deceptive nature of the placebo creates tension between the audio community and the honesty of the industry-audiophile relationship."

in wikipedia

P.S.: satire alert :JPS:

 

Nice.

Can I suggest you try banging your head on the floor before you listen? After all, if you haven't tried it, you can't comment on whether it improves the sound, or not, can you?

 

I have never suggested that it has a positive or negative effect on the sound. I have not tried it and therefore cannot come to any form of conclusion. What is more, I do not intend to try it. I doubt it would work with vinyl.​

 

Do I take it from your comment that you have actually tried this technique. If you haven't then you prove yourself a hypocrite.​

 

I tried this CD chilling nonsense back in the day. Didn't work. More foo & mirrors to screw with our minds.

Chris

 

No, of course I haven't, nor would I recommend it. But I'm certain it would have much more of an effect than freezing a CD, because this is "Peter Belt territory".

Can't you see that this is the thin end of the wedge? If you believe this, you'll believe anything.

 

Your financial loss actually

You live near a train station?
Pop down for a listen and bring whatever cables (or chilled items) you wish. I've done these things a good few times now and I'm sure that those who've met me will confirm that I don't bite
Free food, free booze and whatever music you care to choose, or bring. Casual listening, informal gathering and I promise no pressure.

Invite is open to all.

 

I'm an agnostic. I never believe nor disbelieve until it has been proven or I prove it myself. In this case I think it is a very healthy discussion which may or may not be deluded. The truth is, I do not know one way or the other. I do fully agree with you though, this really is Peter Belt territory.​