Heathrow show.....

No more so than yours SM!

I have listened to vdh - many times. Its not for me. If you like it then fine.

 

Example please?

 

Valves being natural sounding.

 

they are. you are simply mistaken!

hehe

 

Some are - I have heard some good examples. But not all. Which do you recommend? Did you like anything at the show?

To be honest I beleive implementation is more important than choice of tech.

 

Where did I say that?????

I will say this. As you seem to love female vocal, name me one solid state amplifier that conveys say, Ella Fitzgerald's voice with the realism and emotion as a good 300b based SET?

 

I think I'd be the worst person in the world to make a reccomendation. Nothing sounds less attractive to me than 'straight wire with gain'...

'straight wire with gain' reminds me of a slice of white sliced loaf with the crust cut off, no margerine or filling. anaemic. without taste. boring.

:chunder:


my preference is more BLT in a stottie cake with mayonaise and loads of butter.

 

Chris,

The CDP/amp was IIRC by a company called Einstein, some sort of valve/solid-state combo. The TT was a Rega P9 without the wood surround - they took it off to fit the tt into the rack!

Very impressive sound from the Arros, I thought.

Cheers,

Jon

 

BN - A straight wire with gain means a perfect amplifier. If that is too plain for you then by defination you must enjoy something being added Which is fair enough especially if you admit that is the case.

SM - see your comments earlier in the thread. Bryston - without the added emotion given by many 300bs which isnt on the recording. My own system plays female voice better than any valve based system I heard at the show - or indeed any valve system I have ever heard.

I guess I am just asking to get kicked up the pants now!

 

Sure, my system probably adds loads to the sound, and misses plenty out too.

I dont think I can be much of an audiophile, because absolute lack of colouration isnt something I think about when Im buying hifi, or listening to it. I just buy things I like the sound of.

 

Ok you made a good choice then in my eyes. Perhaps a demo can convert me?

 

I think there should be another label other than hifi, personally I reckon if you get the music right from a system, everything else is just icing on the cake.

 

I wish I could - unfortunately I cant abide deviation from neutrality. I guess people choose according to how they hear and what irratates them and what they like.

 

Unlikely to be a new phrase to BN. Also as a phrase doesnt really describe objectives or attributes of either source or loudspeakers so it's not really a complete theory.

 

well the perfect transfer function would be unaffected by source and loudspeakers ... the aim can be considered seperately. What comes out should be an exact copy of goes in except bigger!

 

I'm far from being any type of expert in the field of electronics but am I not correct to say that one of the strengths of tubes as signal amplification is linearity?

 

Yes you are right to say that but as with most things inc SS it depends on the implementation.

 

I believe there are some very linear SS devices as well but I am not well qualified to comment.

 

I have. I didn't. No Bryston/PMC system I have ever heard (and I have heard a lot) have ever got close to convincing me there is a living person between the speakers. They are very good at convincing me I am listing to a well reproduced recording. I am afraid that is not my personal goal, but I admire those who find it intersting in the long term and fully respect their choice.

Straight wire with gain? Doesn't exist. If those amps that claim to come close really do, then we are truly screwed by the losses at the recording stage anyway so I don't see it as desireable unless for purely academic purposes.

Yes you are.

 

Of interest, the PMC was one of the most grim there, truely hard and in yer face IMO