Mana Audio update

Markus, you've mentioned that article before and I've read it myself. What they did, IIRC, was measure the resonances etc of the stand. They didn't make any audio measurements. They might aswell have measured how well they reflect light for the relevance it has to hifi.

With the exception of TTs and speakers, there's no evidence whatsoever that the effect of hifi stands is audible.

Michael.

 

I can normally tell speakers apart from each other, and express a preference.

I can often tell amplifiers apart. When I can, one model sounds often better than another to me.

I often cant tell the difference between one cd player and another. When I can, I can sometimes express a preference, often the difference sounds inconsequential.

I can rarely but sometimes hear a small difference between cables of one sort or another. I very rarely have a preference.

I cant hear any difference between any of the stands that I've had, or putting things on the floor.

On the scale of things, its -50% on the radar!!

Indeed, stand lovers are a subset of a subset of a subset..

The only place Im going with this little post is to say that if stands are measurably different (they probably are, most things are different to each other), doesnt mean I can actually hear it.

If you can and you want to spend money on it, great. If you cant hear a difference, or alternatively dont give a monkeys also great!!


As for Mana - we need whats been said all along - for people with outstanding orders to be communicated with. Its shocking to think that someones paid money and now been ignored... I once bought a sofa from a a big-name leather sofa manufacturer, and they went bust and took my money.

Im still pissed at them 5 years later - by deliberately taking orders they cant fulfill just to nick a customers money made those company directors scum in my view. I hold that type of director in the same opinion as I do a mugger or a burglar.

Suprise suprise the company opened mere weeks later with another company name.... closed again a few months later, and is now open again with another company name... if you go on the A40 in London, you probably pass them every day. I can only presume they will continue this circular activity of ripping people off.

Im not saying this applies to Mana - Im not the customer in question, and cant translate my experience from another shitty company.

What I am saying is that if I were Mana - and aware of this thread, Id be putting the customer right and the public straight immediately.. these questions are very serious.

Cheers
Chris

 

Extreme personal attack removed [michaelab]

I know of dealers who were offered the product some years ago and took it. One in particular paid for their opening stock, then had one enquiry in two years about Mana. The shop staff soon came to the conclusion that the company was underhand in it's direct selling, and also that the 'Mana effect@ was detrimental to the vast majority of quality hifi stocked by them.

I believe the racks are now used for storing coffee mugs and tea bags and the dealer community want nothing to do with Mana. Another example of poor business practice I feel.

 

This information may be useful for individuals who need to seek redress for orders that have not been delivered. It also appears the patent for Mana products expired over three years ago.

http://webdb4.patent.gov.uk/patents

Search for GB2230426 in the Publication Number field.

 

response to Stereo Mic's attack (quoting it) removed

I don't think there is any doubt that this could all have been handled better but that is a bit of an extreme comment.

Ian

 

Mike, please refrain from making personal attacks on JW here.
Michael.

 

There's plenty of evidence from satisfied users. You choose to ignore it. That's OK.

 

Have you tried Mana, or are you talking from a similar position of ignorance to that of all the other Moderators here?

 

Bub, how many times are you going to retire or have your account removed from ZG?

 

I dunno. Does it matter, Alex?

 

No, but aren't you bored of telling us all your leaving and then coming back?

 

No, not yet.

 

I thought I'd repeat the question, as we have yet more personal noise on the thread.

To "bottleneck":

Have you tried Mana, or are you talking from a similar position of ignorance to that of all the other Moderators here?

 

Bub this is getting rather tedious. I'd also like you to show me any negative comments I have personally made that either knock or support Mana as a support system. I have heard some systems Mana'd up to the eyeballs, but I've not heard that same system without Mana. It certainly did a good job of isolating the system from the room, but I don't know and therefore couldn't comment as to whether comparable systems are better or worse. Please don't turn this thread into yet more Mana wars.

 

You are right. Can you imagine how tedious it is to read post after post after post from a group of self-appointed "experts" about a product of which they have no experience whatever?

I'd forgotten that you are a Moderator, too. There seem to be so many of them.

 

Right, that's it, I'm off. I can't stand the endless stand wittering. Please ban me and remove any posting rights. I will never post here again.

 

Now.

Do you suppose that the owner of that system has heard his system both on & off Mana? What do you think might have driven him to add progressively more Mana?

 

He wanted something taller?

 

Will you eff off?

It is not Mana users who "cause Mana wars". It seems impossible to discuss it without peasants ruining the thread with stupid remarks.

 

Because he perceived either rightly or wrongly that there was an improvement, he wouldn't have spent the money otherwise