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  1. zanash

    Stereo Mic

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    Don't you think it would help him if he had some objective proof of differences? Rather than totally unreliable hearsay and flawed comparisons? Surely passing a controlled test with flying colours would be of considerable benefit to his business? Of course failure would be catastrophic but surely he has the confidence in his product to take the test?
     
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    3DSonics away working hard on "it"

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    Hi,

    Exactly, the range of interactions are compelx and the fact that non of the parameters in HiFi gear are standardised results in highly variable interactions.

    I mean if we ever got past the debate if antything can be allowed to make an audible difference or if orthodoxy must prevail and cables are not allowed to make an audible difference, we might actually get down to examining these interactions and getting some real results.

    Now, AMR gives away it's own design cables free of charge (to customers who buy our equipment only of course) and we strongly recommend their use as they at least behave in a predictable manner and ensure that everything sounds and operates as designed.

    Ciao T
     
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    Uncle Ants In Recordeo Speramus

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    Given that he basically wants the punter to decide, and I know him quite well so know that really is the case, its not just some marketing ploy, I don't actually see whether Pete himself can pass the test is really all that significant. Besides if he were to acquiesce to your demands you know what would happen irrespective of the result - whatver the result there would be cries of foul and criticism of the experimental design

    Its quite simple. All he claims is that his cables may improve the sound of your setup, or not. If having tried them you think it does you can buy them, or not. He's not a charlatan charging thousands of pounds for a short interconnect with markup in four figures, with no real interest in their efficacy, he does genuinely believe his cables can make a difference, and so far as I'm aware the prices he asks are quite reasonable given the material costs. He's actually a pretty genuine straight up guy you know.
     
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    Petes sold quite a lot Mike...

    ..by your own statistics that must say something......the hearsay can't be THAT unreliable.....



    ;)
     
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    It merely confirms all the market research into sale or return promotions and tells us that the clients like the look/idea of the cable.

    Sadly it tells us nothing more than that.
     
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    So the use of conductors other than copper is a matter of adjusting 'R'?

    Why not just use a shorter cable?

    BTW is cable 'burn in' now a non-issue?

    Paul
     
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    I'm sure some of its marketing.

    (and the industry does it self no favours at all (IMO))


    All of it though?
     
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    Uncle Ants In Recordeo Speramus

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    Why not use tone controls? ;)
     
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    'cos they won't reach?



    :confused:
     
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    Stereo Mic

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    Never underestimate the power of suggestion.
     
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    True

    I think its entirely healthy to be a little cynical or sceptical.
     
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    Paul Ranson

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    Most interconnects are longer than they need to be.

    But that's not really the point.

    I'm using 7 or 8 metres at the moment, it's amazing anything reaches the far end.

    Paul
     
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    7-8 meters?

    wow....good i/cs!




    :)
     
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    Stereo Mic

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    I've got a 10 metre freebie running from my TV to my Preamp. Sounds great.
     
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    :eek:




    You got a big house, Mike?
     
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    michaelab desafinado

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    Actually it's more like: those that are imagining things are trying to persuade those that know the truth that what they're imagining is real, because they've got a lot of money at stake.

    who are you referring to? My speakers are hooked up with freebie bell wire cables.

    Michael.
     
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    sq225917 Exposer of Foo

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    and i bet they sound shit ;-)
     
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    Hey, lets try and strike a middle arguement here somewhere.

    WOULD be good......




    ;)
     
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    :eek: :D
     
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    la toilette Downright stupid

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    I bet the majority of members here do actually sit in the middle ground but are reluctant to air their own opinions because the caustic nature of so many posts on bloody cables.

    It's like christian fundamentalists vs islamic fundamentalists, there's no right unless you're with 'us', while meanwhile the rest of the world doesn't really give a shit and wishes everyone would just shut up about it. ;)
     
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