So Thorsten has broken cover ...

[andyoz]

...and because Dave Gilmour uses them too.

 

[Stereo Mic]

Hi

Each to his own, but the DEQX and PCXO setups I've been using in the later stages of development were revelatory SQ wise compared to the rest. I guess some like spice with their chips, I prefer a sharp, distinct and flawless presentation rather than anything that's been glossed over. I agree musicality does suffer with naff recording because you get out what you put in. Its a different kind of presentation, closer to the source and whatever the partenering equipment is putting out for some this isn't a good thing. Everything else I've heard recently sounds boxy, bloated and disproportionate to a greater or lesser extent.

A few years ago I'd have probably said the same, but now would have to disagree. Well I would disagree if I were listening to the music on the disc. If I were listening to the treble, the bass , the soundstage or transient attack I would probably share your enthusiasm - as I did for a year or so. But I'm a music fan, and I actually find I can hear more of the music without the use of DEQ.

I share others reservations that working on a signal by processing it further in PCM is damaging to the listenability. Why? That's to be investigated I guess - but my experience suggests something is going awry in the process and you certainly aren't getting out what you are putting in - regardless of what your measurements might tell you.

So it is for that reason that I tend to prefer a speaker with a properly designed analogue crossover to one knocked up quickly on a PC with steep filters known for ringing. It's purely that I have matured from listening to the sound to listening to the music.

I have to say the design and finish are superb. I personally would prefer the plain old veneered boxes but I'm probably a bit old fashioned. I'm sure there will be fans of both approaches out there, as the commercial success of the likes of Vivid demonstrates. Good luck with the project.

 

[andyoz]

P.S. An event "next-door to Camden"

Are you part of the team organising this "event" or something? It's not a website I would expect to just stumble across by chance.

Is this one of your "many daily activities" you mentioned earlier?

 

[anon_bb]

Probably over linn naim sme mana marketing material.

 

[Markus S]

Bub, if you're looking for a sponsor, PM me.

 

[andyoz]

Apparently they're filming the event for a Channel 4 documentary, might see him in it perhaps?

 

[Stereo Mic]

Good job it doesn't clash with any of the hifi shows.

 

[andyoz]

It's for charity, maybe we should all go.

 

[anon_bb]

Some one please close this thread I am begging you!

 

[mr cat]

Some one please close this thread I am begging you!

no - it makes me smile when you lot air your laundry in the public...!!

 

[kennyk]

It's for charity, maybe we should all go.

or perhaps just the opposite?

 

[Tenson]

You could get paid to do it if you went to a sperm bank lol!

 

[Dev]

So that's how you are funding your new speaker project.

 

[penance]

Could he keep his mouth shut long enough?

 

[Baudrillard]

Hi,

Ciao T

:cry:

 

[Tenson]

So that's how you are funding your new speaker project.

Lol and my 'sexy' new pre-amp I mentioned before!

Whats with the odd quote Baudrillard?

 

[Baudrillard]

Just reminiscing Tenson .

 

[andyoz]

You could get paid to do it if you went to a sperm bank lol!

Wouldn't get on Channel 4 though.

 

[KUB3]

Shin, Superb effort you have made there. The finish looks first class and rather similar to Wilson's piano surface. I wonder how much different they sound compared to regular ATC? Is it a subtle tweek or a major change in sound that's blindingly obvious?

If I ever get enough space in the future I'd certainly like to try a bit of DIY high end tweekery. Tenson, how's your project coming along?

 

[ShinOBIWAN]

A few years ago I'd have probably said the same, but now would have to disagree. Well I would disagree if I were listening to the music on the disc. If I were listening to the treble, the bass , the soundstage or transient attack I would probably share your enthusiasm - as I did for a year or so. But I'm a music fan, and I actually find I can hear more of the music without the use of DEQ.

I share others reservations that working on a signal by processing it further in PCM is damaging to the listenability. Why? That's to be investigated I guess - but my experience suggests something is going awry in the process and you certainly aren't getting out what you are putting in - regardless of what your measurements might tell you.

So it is for that reason that I tend to prefer a speaker with a properly designed analogue crossover to one knocked up quickly on a PC with steep filters known for ringing. It's purely that I have matured from listening to the sound to listening to the music.

I have to say the design and finish are superb. I personally would prefer the plain old veneered boxes but I'm probably a bit old fashioned. I'm sure there will be fans of both approaches out there, as the commercial success of the likes of Vivid demonstrates. Good luck with the project.

No worries, I just felt it important to highlight the fact that I've investigated virtually every crossover avenue from serial and parallel passive right through to digital and each had many iterations of refinement, measurement and evaluation. I hate to think how many hours were spent on all that, easily thousands though.

I'm confused as to why you'd say its more like listening to the sound rather than the performance/music, well actually not confused but its counter to what I'm hearing. With my own implementation music certainly flows with plenty of detail, dynamics and everything one would associate with a monitor type of sound but there's also an uncanny sense of realism, space, correct proportion and rightness about the sound. I listen to other setups and they're clearly coloured, they lack that absolute level of realism. I can sit back and enjoy the music for what it is, the rest of the kit doesn't get in the way and you never realise its there. All this is something I've never really experienced with such completeness on anything else regardless of price, spec or setup. So I built my own that did do that.

I guess much is down to setup, the DEQX takes things rather more seriously than the DACT which is primarily for room correction and contains no XO or speaker correction functions, the DACT is also very inferior in terms of its scope for measurement and overall flexibility. Its also a case of heavily auditioning amplifiers for a good match, like I said, I've been through 5 different models to tri-amp these, actually more if you consider the commercial designs I've used rather than the stuff I built.

Thanks for the kind words on the speakers.