Vintage Tannoys

Mine are different again:

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la toilette said:
The TW on the 10" is quite different to the 12 and 15" it seems.

Still has a bullet shaped centre tho' :), although maybe not so pointy.
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P.S. According to my manual for the first DMT series the frequency response of the DMT12 only goes down to 44hz.
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This is an early version of the waveguide that was first used in the DTM8 (desk top monitor) and the DC1000/2000/3000's when Tannoy moved to separate LF/HF magnet assemblies.
The later range where they all use the Tulip waveguide is shown here http://www.hilberink.nl/codehans/tannoy29.htm
 
Robbo said:
The TW is certainly very different. It must be to match the drive unit size.

The quoted frequency response will be the -3db anechoic measurement. The in room response will be significantly lower than that depending on room size etc. Also, most manufacturers quote the -6db value to make out the speaker goes deeper.
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Actually the -3dB published figures are for half space(2pi), anechoic(4pi) would be -6db @44hz.
 
Baudrillard said:
There's no denying, Tannoy moved away from the pepperpot for cost cutting reasons
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Hi,
That's certainly an oft quoted idea but in areas where quality comes first and competition is fierce Tannoy choose the waveguide over the pepperpot for its studio monitor range for its much lower distortion and flatter response.
I know which I prefer;-)
Cooky
 
Cooky, I thought you'd have forgotten all these stats/specs now you've moved over to the dark side (JBL). Do you still have the Tannoys?
 
Despite ultimate bass extension not being terribly low, I bet £1 to 1p they are strong in the musically more important (IMO) mid bass.

That's one thing Tannoy's do really well IMO (bass guitar bass I call it), along with the treble integration of course.. and some horn dynamics in the treble.
 
andyoz said:
Cooky, I thought you'd have forgotten all these stats/specs now you've moved over to the dark side (JBL). Do you still have the Tannoys?
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Can't part with them-put so much research/work into building them, too good to let go Tannerdism gets in the blood.
I may be forced to build some System 15's and sell the bass units just because of space issues and the evil looks from the omnipotent one as she squeezes past them in the hall;-)
The JBL's are dialed in now and are excellent evil twins to the Tannoys.
Cooky
 
Well put! Must say, though, I'd like to reacquaint myself with a JBL 3-way one day- I think they suit jazz, reggae and dance, particulary well. Not that Tannoys are lacking mind.

bottleneck said:
Despite ultimate bass extension not being terribly low, I bet £1 to 1p they are strong in the musically more important (IMO) mid bass.

That's one thing Tannoy's do really well IMO (bass guitar bass I call it), along with the treble integration of course.. and some horn dynamics in the treble.
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Baudrillard said:
Well put! Must say, though, I'd like to reacquaint myself with a JBL 3-way one day- I think they suit jazz, reggae and dance, particulary well. Not that Tannoys are lacking mind.
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Well if you're ever headed to my neck of the woods drop me a pm and come for a blast.
Cooky
 
cooky1257 said:
Actually the -3dB published figures are for half space(2pi), anechoic(4pi) would be -6db @44hz.
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Fair enough. In my case I'm definately not getting a flat response down into the low bass region, it is down in output, but it is enough to keep me not wanting to use the sub. My room resonance is at 30hz or so which helps boost the low frequencies nicely.
 
bottleneck said:
Despite ultimate bass extension not being terribly low, I bet £1 to 1p they are strong in the musically more important (IMO) mid bass.

That's one thing Tannoy's do really well IMO (bass guitar bass I call it), along with the treble integration of course.. and some horn dynamics in the treble.
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Absolutely Chris. Thats why wanted to go for a large driver speaker, having heard what big JBLs and Tannoys can do!
 
Robbo said:
Fair enough. In my case I'm definately not getting a flat response down into the low bass region, it is down in output, but it is enough to keep me not wanting to use the sub. My room resonance is at 30hz or so which helps boost the low frequencies nicely.
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Deeper bass (which it looks like you don't actually need anyway)wasn't the only reason I suggested incorporating the sub(while you had it lying round;-).
If you can relieve the DC of it's larger cone excursions below 80 hz it can have greatly beneficial effects in the mid/hf region due to lower intermodulation distortion as the horn extension/cone is not moving so much.
The 215 does get better mids when you run it 3 way tho' at the expense of losing some of the huge slam you get from dual bass units(I run them dual-big bass is my thing over cleaner mids).
Cooky
 
Yeah, I kinda regret selling the Revel Performa B15a 15" sub I had for a few months.

But I found that, when connected in the correct way (between pre and power), it had an audibly adverse effect on an analogue signal, despite having high quality high and low pass crossovers and great LFO software.

Ah well :rolleyes:
 
cooky1257 said:
Deeper bass (which it looks like you don't actually need anyway)wasn't the only reason I suggested incorporating the sub(while you had it lying round;-).
If you can relieve the DC of it's larger cone excursions below 80 hz it can have greatly beneficial effects in the mid/hf region due to lower intermodulation distortion as the horn extension/cone is not moving so much.
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Yeah, you may well be right, but to tell you the truth, I'm too lazy to bother setting it up, it sounds just fine as it is!

As an aside, I wonder whether big Tannoy studio monitors are now a thing of the past. The biggest Tannoy studio monitor in the current range is a nearfield monitor with a 10" drive unit. We may now just be owning a piece of history: the last of the big Tannoy studio monitors.
 
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Has this only just come about? I'm sure when I was looking for info on the DMT series when I bought my 10's Tannoy were still selling the 15 and 215, and that was only about 8 weeks ago! :confused:
 

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