Worst drivers are BMW drivers

andyoz said:
Right you bunch of nancy boys.

I bet the factory fitted ICE system in my Volvo S60 (diesel :yikes:) would wipe the floor with the tinny factory gear in your WRX or Beemer.
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I know what you mean, the factory ICE sucked on the Subura, I've heard one of those Bush all-in-one jobs sounding better.

I stuck Seas Lotus 2-way components in, along with an Alpine Rome headunit and Genesis Compact 4 amplification. Sounds bearable now but still nothing that I'd consider hi-fi.

Also, my seats are the best thing this side of a DFS store.

(it handles like a pile of s**t but I'm on the Motorway 90% of the time so who needs cornering potential)
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Yep that's where a second, or rather first car comes in handy. Vauxhall Omega 2.5 V6 which is decidely boring but is extremely smooth and massively more economical. I use the Subaru a few times a week and still end up putting around £60-80 in it. The Omega goes everywhere and only uses around £25-40 a week!
 
Paul Ranson said:
It's simple physics that cars corner and brake harder than bikes.

Paul
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I don't know if that's true or not, but what you must also remember is that a bike can lean right over when going round a corner, a car can't. You can't just compare the amount of rubber and the weight.
 
Paul Ranson said:
It's simple physics that cars corner and brake harder than bikes.

It's also likely that most bikers capable of pushing a bike hard don't ride 'sports bikes' on the road.
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Well, yes, but you have to remember that we find ourselves in "the twilight zone" here, where anything is seemingly possible!
 
ShinOBIWAN said:
I stuck Seas Lotus 2-way components in, along with an Alpine Rome headunit and Genesis Compact 4 amplification. Sounds bearable now but still nothing that I'd consider hi-fi.
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Unfortunately, fitting aftermarket ICE is a classic sign of general "hoony" tendancies.

I reckon Bubs has as well, he justed won't admit it.
 
andyoz said:
Unfortunately, fitting aftermarket ICE is a classic sign of general "hoony" tendancies.

I reckon Bubs has as well, he justed won't admit it.
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I fitted out the house with quality choons too. Guess wanting fidelity gets you a label these days :D I know what your saying and I agree, some folks just like nice/fast/expensive/rare/quality(delete as appropriate) stuff. If the general populous of whatever particular club you care to mention are peceived toss pots then I don't mind being bundled into the same stereotype, afterall we're a bunch of strangers on here so opinions carry very little value. I'd be gutted if you we're a valued friend and said that though, I guess because they know me a little better is the reason why they've never said as such :)

PS. Would you stick a 12" sub driver in the bottom of a waldrobe or cupboard and expect something resembling quality? No, so why is it folk do the equivalent in a car and expect to be impressed?
 
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The Devil said:
Yes, of course, I have the top-of-the-range audiophile-grade Linn system in my 328, with subwoofers an' all. My other car is an Aston Martin, btw. And a Ferrari, and a Rolls-Royce for the weekend. Not to mention the speedboat & helicopter for use whenever I'm in Monaco.
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Just because you've got a job that barely supports a single car, doesn't mean to say others can't afford a plaything for the weekend such as a Subaru. ;)

Guess you didn't study hard enough at School.

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Sadly I don't have a shot of the whole car but this will be quite enough to prove the point. You'll see the Vauxhall behind the Subura. If you like I can take a photo tommorow with a big handwritten sign across the windshields of both cars carrying the message "Devil ? Get One".

Suck it up Bub and believe that not everyone is a compulsive make believe artist such as yourself.

On a serious note, putting a posh "sound system" in a scooby-doo is a sure sign of someone who has completely missed the (limited) point of the car.
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Yeah I'm real crazy like that.
 
Getting back to the bike vs car... don't forget that when the car is cornering, weight transfer will put most of the weight onto the outer tyres... and most modern "super" bikes have tyres that are almost as wide as the average car tyre. I know contact areas are smaller because of the different profiles, but then again there is more to grip than just width of tyre. I'd bet that most bike tyres are softer compound than most car tyres.
 
ShinOBIWAN said:
I'd be gutted if you we're a valued friend and said that though, I guess because they know me a little better is the reason why they've never said as such :)
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Don't take offence, I just wanted another excuse to use the word "Hoon" again.:D

Re. tyres, I was always under the impression that motorcycle tyre technology was way ahead of car tyre technology. And the previous post regarding tyre compound softness is very valid.

I just don't buy all this talk about cantact area, friction, blah, blah, etc. Whenever I see a rear wheel drive car take a corner hard, the rear tyre grip breaks away to a large degree anyway.
 
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penance said:
Dik, Most Z rated bike tyres now are triple compound, getting stickier towards the outer edge.
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Thanks for the info... things have moved on a bit from TT100s and Avon deathmasters=)
 
Pole position times for the 2006 Grand Prix of China.


Moto GP Dani Pedrosa: 1:59.009 (Dry track)

F1 Fernando Alonso: 1:44.360 (wet track!)


Michael Schumacher holds the lap record at 1:32.238

The Moto GP lap record is 1:59.318
 
You didnt mentiuon racers in your original post but said bikers capable of pushing a bike to its limits.
When you say sports bike i assume you mean a modern road bike, not a race machine?
 

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