3ds started the thread didnt he so its hardly subverted. Its about the distortion fingures not the review. Many people in the recording business use all sorts of kit that doesnt belong in an entertainment system. For all I know pmc midrange might offer similiar levels of distortion - but the thread isnt about that.
ATC SCM50 measured performance vs. high quality studio monitors
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The Devil
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Me & David Gilmour think that ATCs do belong in our 'entertainment systems'.
You don't. That's OK.
You don't. That's OK.
The Devil
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Fine, no problem.
Anything else?
Anything else?
The Devil
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The Devil
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My picture is more accurate.
kennyk
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The Devil said:
but that is all that is more accurate, some would argue...
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Would they?!!
Quick! Where?
Quick! Where?
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Markus S
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I was going to do a longish post on distortion and ATCs, including some online references, but that needs more time than I can spare right now. So, let me contribute to this thread very briefly:
In conventional drive units such as those used by ATC, non-linear distortion tends to be directional, i.e., the distortion is probably worst precisely where HFN measured them, directly in front of the drive units.
Btw "under 1%" can mean anything between .0001 and .99%; it probably varies with frequency. If the distortion is under 1% even in the crossover region, it is extremely low, most passive systems will have much higher distortion there-
In contrast to the controlled-dispersion monitors that Thorsten prefers, I understand ATCs will probably be listened to off-axis. The studio installation pictures on ATC's website certainly point in that direction. The non-linear distortion will be substantially lower under these conditions.
I don't really know how the ATCs will compare to Thorsten's preferred alternatives under those conditions. Maybe DominicT's measurements will provide a clue.
Subjectively, I find that ATCs have quite low distortion. The Quads sound cleaner, of course, but don't have anywhere near the oomph. The ATCs sound better than any number of "domestic" speakers I have heard.
I would certainly like to listen to the Geithains.
In conventional drive units such as those used by ATC, non-linear distortion tends to be directional, i.e., the distortion is probably worst precisely where HFN measured them, directly in front of the drive units.
Btw "under 1%" can mean anything between .0001 and .99%; it probably varies with frequency. If the distortion is under 1% even in the crossover region, it is extremely low, most passive systems will have much higher distortion there-
In contrast to the controlled-dispersion monitors that Thorsten prefers, I understand ATCs will probably be listened to off-axis. The studio installation pictures on ATC's website certainly point in that direction. The non-linear distortion will be substantially lower under these conditions.
I don't really know how the ATCs will compare to Thorsten's preferred alternatives under those conditions. Maybe DominicT's measurements will provide a clue.
Subjectively, I find that ATCs have quite low distortion. The Quads sound cleaner, of course, but don't have anywhere near the oomph. The ATCs sound better than any number of "domestic" speakers I have heard.
I would certainly like to listen to the Geithains.
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The Devil
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Well, a nonsensical ending to a nonsensical thread.
Take-home message: audition speakers at home before buying.
Take-home message: audition speakers at home before buying.
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I'd like to see you respond to Markus' post.
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