REL Quake

No just keep to the gratuitous insults, kinda done well so far, lets aim for 2k

 

10) It is possible to have a long discussion that remains good natured and fun, if a bit silly

Well done chaps, Over and out.

 

Ps you forgot that madame tony can see into the future, especially with regard to what other people will hear in systems he ain't heard himself.

Oh and mercs are shite and come lowely 3rd place behind BMW/Audi

Oh and mine might not be the best sounding system but it's better than Robbo's (honest it is WM told me)

 

penance,
cheeky sod. still you're probably right.

robbo,
when are you comming over for a listen then - bring your jammies and a pillow for when the music starts. btw. lexus kicks germanic unter saloon arse mate, just face it.

my system is the best i've ever heard

ak,
that wouldn't be hard robbo uses valves and titchy speakers. get that sony.

1k posts - wow, the sadness of it overwhelms me i better go lie down.
cheers


julian

 

That was a strange thing. There's not a lot wrong with the bass itself, but the lower midrange seemed to suffer a bit when the the bass module was connected up. Some sort of crossover problem? Dunno. The ATC midrange is one of the very best in the business, however, so it's a tough comparison. A bit more experimentation with speaker positioning might well help.

The system coped very well indeed with the bass-farking HIA CD, good and clean, less so perhaps with Cara Dillon (dreaded female vocals), Mozart's Requiem, when it got busy, and the Bach Oboe concertos - I would have liked to try those again without the bass modules running.

Those sequential t-e-c-h-n-o-l-o-g-y lights on the power amp are well-blingy (compared with olive Naim, which looks like something rather austere out of the early sixties) but you do have to pay for these things. I liked your "19 inch alloy wheel", too.

Good company and good music, what more could you ask for? Thanks for having us over, Paul, SYS.

Oh, and get some Mana. You know it makes sense! Bass into the air, not into the floor. ;-)

 

Whats this ?? Tell me more.

 

Genuine Question Bub. How many phases would I need to bring the JBL's up about 10" off the floor? I suspect that sometime in the future I will be back with the subs, and my new place has wooden floorboards that move quite nicely thankyou when deep bass is present. The only sensible option (given that I would like to get more transient impact from them) would appear to be angle iron, but how many phases?

 

BMW are chavs, AUDI are fancy Skodas, Mercedes are THE cars all the others want to be...

Merlin's stuff is always changing and always the best, without TACT...

Those who dont know how to decor a nice living room with good sound, assume it is impossible...

Big woofers in small rooms play big bass... next door...

Sat/Sub systems play well in Scotland, but not in Portugal...

 

IIRC four phases equals about a foot if thats any help.

 

No that was Robbo's idea

Ok I'll give you this one

No thats your opinion

No thats just Merlin

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Hi Robbo,

It was "Colourform" by Higher Intelligence Agency. Who rattled lowrider's cage this time?

 

Thanks AK. It may prove to be a rather expensive solution though

Antonio you are right of course My system is always changing, but in my defence it has tought me a few things.

A good system will play all genres and all recordings well, giving access to a more diverse music collection.

Tact RCS achieves the above. It takes a lot of time and effort to get it there, but it has been the singularly most impressive product I have owned and one I may well revisit.

Low bass at decent spl's requires a lot of air movement. This requires large radiating areas or very long excursions. There is no substitute for size and volume.

Vinyl still produces the the most musical results.

A £6K AV processor sounds no better than an £800 2 channel preamp.

The room is at least as important as the equipment you put in it (unless you own Tact!)

Small speakers will always sound small and compromise your enjoyment of large scale works.

There is no best solution - merely differing presentations.

So looks like you're F**ked

 

I agree with the room thing, and some of the other points. AV isn't hi-fi.

I was listening to Radio 4 last night and there was a programme about the organ at Liverpool cathedral. Some organ expert said:

"The best stop on an organ is the building it's in."

True for hi-fi systems, too.

 

The room is without doubt the dealbreaker. Me I suffer from a room node, so what to do....I'm going to buy a big bookcase. Even if I changed speakers I'm sure it would still be the problem, so until I address that I'm goinig to suffer from a boomy bass at around F#.

 

Thats why I say my system, in a good golden ratio room, sounds better than anything Merlin will have in a 7 feet wide room, even if his kit was the best in the world...

 

Why on earth are you having an argument with Merlin about who has the better system? FWIW, I think your system would be unlikely to be any good at all for music, whatever the room, because it is an AV one, and you use Sonus Faber speakers and a sub, which strikes me as a disastrous set of compromises.

And you have no Mana, which is another pretty disastrous compromise.

 

Surprise surprise, at least your consistent james

 

Or both! I went to St. Pauls Carnival in Bristol yesterday. Don't think I've ever heard so much reggae in one day. Every other house had a PA system. Some of them were dire but one or two were very very good. I saw 18 inch woofers moving a good half inch. That's loud from 6 feet away! Quite interesting having your internal organs rearranged as you walk down the street
The main stage was pretty good too. Great day out. Interesting sounds. Interesting smells :MILD: Interesting food too. Still can't get my head around 'jerk' chicken. Sounds most unappetising The goat curry was good though

 

oh yes, the smells were good

 

I'd never thought of St Pauls as heaven but it sounds like it was - if only for a day or two! The JBL's apparently move half an inch, but I have no desire to test this out