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julian2002 said:
merlin,
could you not use 4 speakers as one of those hafler things where you cross connect bits and bobs?
why not have 2 left speakers and 2 right speakers?
my point was that if spl was the sole criteria of 'good' then 4 or 5 atc's would better 2.
cheers

julian
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Would that not change the impedance though, therfore requireing more power?
 
Paul,

Quite right, if volume is what your after, dispose of those grey studio monitors, and install some Horn loaded drivers and some Cerwin vega cabs, not accurate or homely :D but not shy of SPL (Cue Joel and his westrex's)
 
This whole argument depends does it not on comparing apples and oranges. AV has 5+ channels, Stereo has 2. An AV amplifier at a particular point will surely have more compromises than a stereo one, no video switching, fewer channels of amplification, no need to provide processing. I'm sure the best way would be to keep the systems separate.
Mind you if SPL are the measure, I want two 100 foot PA stacks like they had at the Red Hot Chili's concert. That's wake the neighbours up :D
 
ak,
as the atc's are active you'd probably be ok just using a pre with more than 1 set of pre outs.
cheers

julian
 
julian2002 said:
ak,
as the atc's are active you'd probably be ok just using a pre with more than 1 set of pre outs.
cheers

julian
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Of course, silly me.

WM I have the HIFI Transducers, and ample volume. It's those with no bass and all PRAT and those with Mountainous bass humps that need the pro stuff.:p
 
lordsummit said:
AV has 5+ channels, Stereo has 2. An AV amplifier at a particular point will surely have more compromises than a stereo one,
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To be fair, I have lived with most of the top AV processors, and sadly they cannot live with two channel preamps at a quarter of the price. So regardless of expenditure, the very fact that you need to use one leads to compromise.

I've nothing against using six speakers stacked for SPL, but that's two channel, what ever way you look at it!
 
merlin,
take a look at the review of the top end marantz gear in hf news this month. aparently you can daisy chain 12 amps and 4 pres (iirc) together to create a monster multichannel setup. why not try that when the mac loses it;s shine....
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julian
 
Julian,

you still have to use a processor and I have yet to hear one that doesn't compromise two channel.

But I am all in favour of running a two channel rig with as many speakers as you like, even in each corner if you like that modern dance music!
 
julian2002 said:
merlin,
take a look at the review of the top end marantz gear in hf news this month. aparently you can daisy chain 12 amps and 4 pres (iirc) together to create a monster multichannel setup. why not try that when the mac loses it;s shine....
cheers


julian
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Yeah Ju £104K before speakers or source.
 
i did say cost no object.
also most multichannel sources have decoding built in so it is feasable to use the marantz stack without a processor.
cheers

julian
 
julian2002 said:
merlin,
why not try that when the mac loses it;s shine....
cheers
julian
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Likely to be a few weeks away yet :D

The Mac is now run in and is one of the most lively listens I have had in a while - not what most people assume valves will sound like at all :eek:
 
The Devil said:
I don't think any 6 channel amp could be as good as a 2 channel one at the same price point.
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And by that reckoning no 2 channel amp can be as good as a mono block at the same price point - but then some people want more than mono and others want more than stereo.

It's a bit of a daft comparison really - it's like saying "Christ you spent £8K on a car! You could have got a much better/faster motorbike for that money!" Uh, yeah thanks, but I didn't want a motorbike - I wanted a car.

Matt.
 
analoguekid said:
Of course, silly me.

WM I have the HIFI Transducers, and ample volume. It's those with no bass and all PRAT and those with Mountainous bass humps that need the pro stuff.:p
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Naturally I presume you're not referring to WM's sys.
 
The Devil said:
Missing the point lowrider, I'm talking equivalent money, assuming the components are chosen reasonably carefully.

I don't think any 6 channel amp could be as good as a 2 channel one at the same price point.
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No one ever talked equivalent money, that is quite obvious... :rolleyes:
 
penance said:
question for merlin

Would Dyns + sub be a crappy sub/sat system or augmenting good speakers for more low end?
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Crappy Mr P, Crappy ;)

But of course it depends on the Subs - little Rels will offer more bass but of a lower quality with higher distortion, not worth the effort IMO ;)

I'd cross over well above the tuning frequency, cutting the port's contribution considerably and tightening the whole bottom end at the same time. But that's just me :D
 
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