You when things are bad when...........

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Welcome back Tom. I've been having some more fun on eBay and Audiogon recently. Also, someone phoned from BBC Radio Shropshire wanting to interview the man who sold the Ironbridge Power Station. I told him that I'd sold it a number of times but had to stop now. Well, there's a limit to how many Ironbridge Power Stations one can sell. Anyway, if anyone's in Shropshire this morning ...

 

Sheesh!
There's been some flack flying here ain't there.
Nice to see 'lord' Tom (Alves of course) puts some perspective into it.

 

WTF!!! - I live 5 miles from Ironbridge power station. Has someone been selling it on ebay!!! ROFLMAO Any links?

 

lamboy, see here:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3063534173&category=14993

Steve has been using eBay for rather ingenious viral marketing for his 7th Veil speakers

Michael.

 

ROFLMAO ? WTF??

I think this is the link you want Ironbridge Power Station - sold for £51.00

And for the sake of completion, my latest 'guerilla marketing' effort The best crossover in the world

As this thread has been discussing, selling is tricky right now. Whatever helps.

 

Whoops, you beat me to it there, Michael.

 

WTF = what the f**k

RAFLMAO = Rolling About on the Floor Laughing My Ass Off

 

Well if mr naim is around, here ye this....

I am actually a bit of a naim sound fan, I certainly like the sources....

hated the sbls gave me palpitations...really anxious edgy sound...

but I don't think as a company you are doing any favours, you are greedy, that is all there is too it...you were taking the pisss with the 52 preamp, now you really are fat cats extraordinaire, there is no other way to put it, and I hope your loyal fans vote with their feet, and you have to cut prices.

The stuff only has a few hundred pounds worth of bits in and I think it is pure greed to charge what you are.

And I am not anti, I like the stuff, however, there is no magic circuitry involved, see neil mcbrides pages.

And if naim is so solvent, I am sure you won't mind sharing the accounts and finances to back up your own position?

Pray tell, how much do you sell the nap 500 to the dealers for?

 

I would imagine that the dealer margin is 40-50%, the same as most other brands. Thats a lot of money if he sells a £24K pre/power amp!

 

Mmmeeeaaaooowwww!

soz, couldn't resist.
This thread is going the same way as another thread on this forum a while back.

If ya don't like Naim 'cos of whatever reason don't buy it.
It could be overpriced, over specced etc, but some like the sound that Naim kit produces, me included, and I don't mind laying out dosh for it either.

I recon its a good thing we all don't like the same tho - how boring that would be!

cheers!
andy c!

PS I'll bet some manufacturers wish their kit had the residual second hand values that Naim kit has.

I'll get me crash hat on ready.....

 

Andy

You said


"PS I'll bet some manufacturers wish their kit had the residual second hand values that Naim kit has."

True and I bet they wish that they had the same loyal band of customers that Naim have.

What these people forget is that nothing comes on a platter, it has to be earned. I have a 18 year old 32.5 pre amp in my dining room that was serviced just last year. How many many other company's offer that level of customer care.

Regards

Mick

 

I have a theory that once the founding father dies, a company is never the same....JV, mr quad, tdl, kef, many others..

 

This statement is based on a survey of Naim customers by any chance?!

 

Ha Ha Haaaaaaa...

Imagine a company posting their accounts, finances and profit margins on a sleaze thread of a forum on the internet!

Ha Ha Haaaaaaa......

 

Bluemax,

You only need to look at the Naim owners that post here, on pinkfish and of course the Naim forum to understand that this statement, although a generalisation, is pretty close to the mark! of course, not all are like this, but a great many are

But as I said before, you have got to give great credit to Naim's marketing and sales strategy to have created and maintained this userbase for so long.

Robbo

 

Mick, Naim servicing costs are on the up; Densen offer a lifetime guarantee.

PS - A few days ago I heard some (very nearly) mains optimised SBLs on the end of active 250s and they were shockingly good, not like any other SBLs I've heard - they had bass, great midrange presence and didn't break up in the treble until past 12 O'clock.

 

Alex

What are "mains optimised SBL's"

Regards

Mick

 

Mick,

Audio Research are another such company. They offer service and upgrade packages to all their products dating back to about 1971 when they were founded.

 

Like any company in this fine land of ours, Naim are required to make their accounts public, it takes only a couple of minutes to download them from the internet

Still I have little doubt that they would show anything of interest to those looking for chinks in the armour, after all you can sell one 552 and lose about twelve Nait 5 sales and still end up with increased turnover and, almost certainly, a healthier profit margin.

So volume would be down, but turnover and gross profits up. Could certainly help to explain why the 552/500's appeared in a shrinking market place (If you were cynical of course)