30 years on...

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    Stereo Mic

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    Controlled vibration can be a good thing. So where's the test results showing controlled vibration in Mana? Are they likely to be doing some soon? No?

    Oh, I forgot. It looks like they might be going under. How can this be? For something that so clearly lowers the noisefloor better than anything else?

    PS. I have owned and used an awful lot of Mana in my time, although I am led to believe it was never set up correctly as it seemed to sound really poor.
     
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    I have no idea, ask Mana.

    Industry politics? Poor business management? Any number of reasons.

    Likely.
     
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    but being "designed to vibrate" is an entirely different thing.
     
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    The Devil IHTFP

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    Yes, an entirely desirable thing! That is the whole point. Who cares if the stand is vibrating a little, if that vibration comes from the turntable?
     
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    I can't. They don't respond to mails or calls anymore.

    So have you managed to find that proof your so glibbly referred to earlier or did that comment contain as much substance as your follow ups?
     
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    What am I meant to be proving? The non-existence of God, or of your silly theory?
     
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    Neither.

    Just the generally held view that Mana alters the tonal balance. I haven't seen anyone else claiming it doesn't have you?
     
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    The Devil IHTFP

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    Far more people believe in a deity than have ever even heard of Mana, but, however unlikely the existence of God is, no-one can ever prove the non-existence of a God.

    The people who have opined that Mana alters the tonal balance have provided zero evidence to back up their claims*, whereas I have provided strong refuting evidence. The ball is in your court.

    *IOW, the tonal balance alteration falls into the category of a belief, like religion, based on nothing at all.
     
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    fox, has bub heard your system since you relieved it of all that tonal balance control?
     
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    If you mean Mana, then yes he has.
     
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    and?
     
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    The Devil IHTFP

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    And he changed the preamp, poweramps, speakers & CD player at the same time.

    It sounds OK.
     
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    and I have a reputation for change. . .
     
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    Yes.

    I can't possibly comment on whether fox's new system would sound better on Mana. I suspect it almost certainly would, but personal politics prevents such a comparison ever being carried out.
     
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    Where? Sorry must have missed that bit.
     
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    The finite element has a better tonal balance, I find.
     
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    Posts 474 & 488.

    Alex, twaddle.
     
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    << twaddle >> With an LP12 on top I'm sure you're right.
     
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    You do understand what resonance is don't you? When the glass and metal are hit with these frequencies they vibrate in sympathy with them. Therefore the whole stack will start vibrating at these frequencies. If you understood what an impulse response did you'd understand everything has its own sonic signature. Stands are not there to remove all vibration perfectly, its a physical impossibility. They all add and remove things as they all have their own frequency response, its just a matter of finding something that adds and removes in a way you like, personally I prefer wood to glass and metal.
    Btw frequency spectra is a pretty standard term, my mum understands that one.
     
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    You've earned yourself a test-tone audition at my place. I hope you are proud.
     
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