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Sounds revolutionary. What a shame you cannot link to the evidence. Scientists the world over would be interested.
 
any amp designer or speaker designer knows these facts its basically power loss.

the criteria for speaker cable is well understood.

i still want proof that identical lcr cables of different conductors sound noticeably different and can be identified blind ,
but not a single cable supporter has posted any evidence.

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why should a cable supporter show you evidence ? nobody is putting a gun to your head and forcing you to buy cables.

on every hifi forum , on nearly every thread where someone asks about a cable , non-believers show up with a smug arrogance that everyone else is wrong and these wrong people should somehow prove themselves.

I cannot hear a difference between my £450 Esound CDP and a Chord DAC64. I don't go around every DAC64 post telling people that my CDP sounds the same as theirs and then demand proof off the DAC64 owners to back their claims up.

If you believe that your cable sounds the same as any other then well done , why don't you live the rest of your life happy in the knowledge that you arent suckered in to buying expensive cables and leave us idiots that can hear a difference to discuss cables in peace ?

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Mic, i think it was the article with the guys who published then presented to the AES, but they then removed some of their data for the AES presentation.

It was a good article, though i haven't seen the redux.
 
Wickfut said:
If you believe that your cable sounds the same as any other then well done , why don't you live the rest of your life happy in the knowledge that you arent suckered in to buying expensive cables and leave us idiots that can hear a difference to discuss cables in peace ?
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You'd have thought so wouldn't you?
 
i believe the only response to cable sceptics is...


well done you for having an opposing opinion, now **** off and leave us in piece
 
I guess they view cable 'believers' as a gullible lot who aren't doing the reputation of the hobby any favours by supporting the snake oil peddlers. They probably wish they would **** off further down that road and get into Astrology and crystals.

I really wouldn't know ;)

Anyway what about this ABX ???
 
well if people claim crystals make them feel better,and have nothing to gain from it commercially, then maybe they do make them feel better.



but i do find the idea that cable believes may not be doing the reputation of the hobby any favours frankly laughable.

are we guilty of besmirching its good name, seriously, do me a favour, like i give a shit what anyone thinks about my hobby. let them enjoy music for their own fucking reasons, not mine. i don't expect them to try and instill a love of big band jazz into me if thats their bag.

why should we care what people think of the hobby,if they are easily put off listening to music by the over pre-pondernace of people with misheld cable beliefs then they really can't love music much.
 
Those people are not put off music they are put off hifi - big difference
 
You're right. It's a sure sign that someone has lost an argument and is highly amusing. Tells us a lot about someone's drinking habits too I should add.
 
Stereo Mic said:
You're right. It's a sure sign that someone has lost an argument and is highly amusing. Tells us a lot about someone's drinking habits too I should add.
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it's not an argument though.

This thread was originally about using cables as tone controls - which is what I do myself.

I have a bright room , with bright speakers , bright amp and bright cd. With alot of cables it is unlistenable to.

With the cables I use, my hifi isnt bright. The cables I use act as tone controls.

When people pop up and tell me that cables make no difference then what they are saying is "you are a liar" or "you are imagining it". I know Im not. People who have heard my hifi know I'm not , yet some random strangers on the internet _know_ I am.

Then after basically calling me a liar they demand some sort of proof. Like it is a given right of theirs that other people should hunt around looking for evidence to prove what they are saying.

This is a hifi forum , I am here because I like to listen to music and have an interest in hifi. I am not here because I am a scientist or blag artist trying to make money from people.

If you don't believe that my cables change the sound of my system then get off your arse and come to Preston and I'll show you in person. If you don't turn up then just take my word that my cables change the sound of my hifi and let it be.
 
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This reeaalllly does sound a bit childish.
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No. Children through tempers when they lose. Some never grow up.

Wickfut. You are right there is no argument. Until one of the faithful successfully demonstrates audible differences in electrically similar cables under controlled conditions, you are clearly open to the allegation that you are imagining it. The only way for any of your disciples of the silk dialectics to not lose this argument is for you to exclusively use your ears in a controlled experiment. Or show us anyone, any where on planet earth who has managed that feat. Until such time, it's all rather amusing to me except when some forumites are trying to fleece others for money.
 
Stereo Mic said:
No. Children through tempers when they lose. Some never grow up.
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the distict impression I got!!!!


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Stereo Mic said:
Wickfut. You are right there is no argument. Until one of the faithful successfully demonstrates audible differences in electrically similar cables under controlled conditions, you are clearly open to the allegation that you are imagining it. The only way for any of your disciples of the silk dialectics to not lose this argument is for you to exclusively use your ears in a controlled experiment. Or show us anyone, any where on planet earth who has managed that feat.
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but the gentleman has offered you a chance to listen for yourself!!


Stereo Mic said:
Until such time, it's all rather amusing to me except when some forumites are trying to fleece others for money.
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Oh my goodness.......


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BUT WHY MIKE????

we've been through that!!!?????
 
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but the gentleman has offered you a chance to listen for yourself!!
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I don't need to. I've already done the experiment. It's you that needs to try proper auditioning - then you won't be posting like you do now ;)

BUT WHY MIKE????
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In the interests of the truth. There are truths in audio - and too many whackos try to distort them in the interests of a quick buck...
 
Stereo Mic said:
I don't need to. I've already done the experiment. It's you that needs to try proper auditioning - then you won't be posting like you do now ;)



In the interests of the truth. There are truths in audio - and too many whackos try to distort them in the interests of a quick buck...
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so how do you know it isnt your hearing ?

I can hear it clearly , if you cant hear it then something is wrong your end.
 
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