bottleneck
talks a load of rubbish
what a pain in the neck! 
[Review] Getting animated
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Erm. OK then.
So your sanctioning this as a superfluous luxury item that's an under performing and incredibly well built status symbol?
Pure bullshit eh?
What you fail to grasp is that £750 spent on hearsay and rather unquantifiable performance improvements is a joke next to what sensibly investing in proven and effective tweaks such as room acoustics can offer.
Effem
Cable manufacturer
What you have failed to grasp is that whoever buys it is firstly, is spending their money not yours and secondly, you offend them personally by criticising those same purchasing decisions, very much like taking the mickey out of Skoda owners. You are not taking the mickey out of the car per se, but insulting the intelligence of the person that bought it for whatever reasons they decided to spend their money on. I once saw a young hi-fi salesman fired on the spot for laughing in the shop at an Amstrad owner who came in to aks for some advice. Quite right too.
I have had first hand experience of this device. It did nothing whatsoever for me in my listening room with my system and even if it did, I can confidently to say everyone that I wouldn't buy one because the large cash outlay doesn't equate to the benefits in my opinion. Zanash says it did good things for him in his listening room with his system, which was paid for with his own money. I have nothing but respect for the man and far be it for me to criticise in any way that purchasing choice.
I wouldn't class having acres of sound damping in my listening room as being "sensible" either, because not only would I find it an intrusive eyesore, but the better half would have her own unique way of voicing her disapproval at having her home turned into an anechoic chamber :SWMBO:
Bob McC
living the life of Riley
Two more negatives today. Wow that's doubled the negative count.
Uncle Ants
In Recordeo Speramus
Strictly speaking Effem's report isn't a negative. He reported the unit definitely doing something ... its just that he didn't like what he perceived it was doing.
Effem
Cable manufacturer
TWO?
It's bad enough being surrounded by a sea of negativity, even worse when when you are surrounded by a sea of inaccuracy as well
Bob McC
living the life of Riley
Well if Effem's review isn't a negative response I don't know what is!
I think we're at cross purposes here.....
effems report wasn't negative in that he didn't think the device was doing ANYTHING............,.which has been the main theme of this thread (mostly form thoose who have never seen /heared it?!)
well its true you never see negative reviews in magazines especially hifi one...
the unit worked .... just not how I was expecting it ....
it was clear the unit was having an effect...as we could hear it [surprise surprise]
the deq response was clear too
its amazing......now it's not the unit can't work ....the arguments shifted to .....it just doesn't sound very good.
Some of you need to check your arguments.....either it doesn't work and therefore will have no effect ....or
if you comment on the effectiveness then ergo, you have accepted the unit works imo.
davidf ...no that not quite right ......uncle ants has it !
the unit worked .... just not how I was expecting it ....
it was clear the unit was having an effect...as we could hear it [surprise surprise]
the deq response was clear too
its amazing......now it's not the unit can't work ....the arguments shifted to .....it just doesn't sound very good.
Some of you need to check your arguments.....either it doesn't work and therefore will have no effect ....or
if you comment on the effectiveness then ergo, you have accepted the unit works imo.
davidf ...no that not quite right ......uncle ants has it !
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Can't please everyone all the time I'm afraid. That's the risk you run when voicing opinions.
So you consider it poor value. Pretty much what I said, thanks for lecture though.
Your room treatments can be as overt or subtle and as numerous or sparse as you like. Room acoustics isn't the only 'sensible' thing £750 would buy over the box+blue led.
not to much different to the posted set...bit more here bit less there.
the unit was left on in the sealed room for fifteen minutes ....by standing outside the room with a telescope [yes on of those ] we could see the effect on the bar graph. [ths was not meant as scientific test just a look see]
the unit was left on in the sealed room for fifteen minutes ....by standing outside the room with a telescope [yes on of those ] we could see the effect on the bar graph. [ths was not meant as scientific test just a look see]
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Just when you think it can't get any worse, we see this old nugget..
well my wife / daughter / second cousin twice removed / pet rabbit could defo hear a difference...
If you could see me now I am falling off my chair with laughter..
well my wife / daughter / second cousin twice removed / pet rabbit could defo hear a difference...
If you could see me now I am falling off my chair with laughter..
Bob McC
living the life of Riley
by standing outside the room with a telescope [yes on of those ] we could see the effect on the bar graph
Oh dear, there's some fantastic disc world science going on here.
Oh dear, there's some fantastic disc world science going on here.
Effem
Cable manufacturer
Shame you couldn't fall off a cliff for your stupidity
I'm sure there is a scrambling device inside some of these people's heads that uses the eyes to look at reality, then this device rearranges everything into utter tosh by the time it reaches the brain. Where does it say
It merely says:
So what petty points scoring are you hoping to achieve by your absurd comment?
Effem
Cable manufacturer
Spot on Uncle Ants. I am pleased to see that someone here has a grip on the plot and has applied some common sense to it
A couple of boxes of decent claret; three years' membership of the London Library; 75 CDs; a good-ish laptop; a car better than the one AT currently drives; a plane ticket to Oz and back.
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Shame you couldn't fall off a cliff for your stupidity
I'm sure there is a scrambling device inside some of these people's heads that uses the eyes to look at reality, then this device rearranges everything into utter tosh by the time it reaches the brain. Where does it say
It merely says:
So what petty points scoring are you hoping to achieve by your absurd comment?
There are those here, myself included that would consider paying for, or even believing a little plastic box full of indeterminate substances with a blue light on it as stupidity. Without wanting to go back over all of the old posts, I distinctly remember seeing someone mention their 12 year old daughter getting in on the act. Funny that, when someone is really trying to convince you there was a difference, they wheel in someone who doesnt give a damn either way and kazzam! they are converts too.
Tell me, what EXACTLY is in this miraculous box? do you even know? yet you slavishly gush forth about it's abilities while at the same time being completely ignorant of either it's constituents or modus operandi. Earlier you said it doesnt use any known science, so what does it use then? I would like you to tell me in detail:
A) WHAT IT IS MADE OF
B) HOW IT WORKS
C)THE PRINCIPLE BEHIND THIS UNKNOWN SCIENCE IT USES
D)JUST HOW STUPID YOU HAVE TO BE TO BUY ONE.
The first threee I am sure you can manage since you obviously have an in depth working knowledge of the unit and it's effects. The last you can leave to us to decide.
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